Looks like we'll all have to agree to disagree

I would like to see some of these 19th century rulings on the citizen ship of illegal alien children.

Now next question, IF birthright citizenship is overturned what does that mean for all of us? Will we all have to prove our lineage back to someone legally naturalized or to someone here when the nation was formed in 1789? Or to a slave brought to the country before 1865? Or a native american?

How many will suddenly find themselves unable to prove they belong here?

And what about destroyed records? What records will count?

Justicar mentioned that!
if Birthright Citizenship is unconstitutional, all unconstitutional aquired citizenships can (and will) be revoked

Depending on the number of illegal aliens, probably a few million.

thus the persoons deportet

Will we all have to go scouring courthouses for old birth and death records?

But Stefan, how far back do you go?

In fact, no. The bureaucracy, bloated as it might be, can probably do some primitive work in trimming down the people they need to check.

That's for *CONGRESS* to decide.

What if you find you can't prove your own right to be here?

Where is the burden of proof?

if CONGRESS don't to the beginning.

I don't think Stefan has a right to be here at all.

And we talked about this, Cat.

I guess I should buy stock in genealogy companies because they may be about to see exploding business by people who have to go to the 1780's to prove they belong here

And Trump can say that its the Dems fault for blocking this thing.

just stopping future anchor babies is sufficient.

Sufficient isn't the same as ideal, though.

removes a lot of the motivation for illegal immigration. enforcement of existing laws and construction of the wall handles the rest.

i think we're way, way, WAY past ideal here. we're doing triage.

Depends on if Trump wants a Power Play and rekt the Dems or not. And thus he can deport them all and/or use that as a leverage thingy.

trying to save the US from collapse. ideal is not on the table.

And I'd say that he will use it to show them who's boss and that the Dems are not with Immigrants

What the fuck? Stop smoking crack guys, If BR Citizenship is revoked every current citizen will be grandfathered in

All I can see coming from this is suspicion about the legitimacy of every brown person.

There would be an insane amount of violence in the streets if people lost citizenship

That's conspiracy talk

I'm just trying to reason out next steps

There will be Violence either way, when it is revoked because the Hard Lefties will go insane.

just stop future anchor babies. no need to go revoking citizenship.

There are no next steps here

Yes, but remember how you felt after election day 2016, cat.

Our fears often far outstrip reality.

You;re making a mountain out of a mole hill

I haven't thought enough about it to make a conspiracy. Honestly, I never even imagined this discussion would ever be a thing.

The joys of a recalibrating Overton window.

I'd say that Trump will at least deoport everyone up to 5 or 10 years and then use the rest as leverage

But leverage could be most of the population