Perhaps, but the founding fathers said this should be handled by the Congress and the states. It is a miscarriage of their intent not to yield to the legislative branch.

I'm pretty sure the founding fathers weren't oaky with rogue states passing legislature that is unconstitutonal

Anything that is not covered by the constitution is fair game

But that's an amendment, friend

Foreigners as defined by aliens who belong to families..." Again, i'm not making up these interpretations. They are the precedent that has existed throughout the 20th and 21st century until apparently the past few weeks

Founding Fathers made a system where the Country can't be fucked by just one or two population centers and made the Electoral College.

You said the comma after aliens

That's not helpful at all. Leaving this to congress means ***NO*** action will be taken, and that in two years, or six years, or however long it takes for democrats to claw their way back into power that they will give blanket amnesty and citizenship to tens of millions of illegals and have total unassailable domination of all branches of government for all fucking time.

You can't delete every comma in the sentance

I didn't

Again, I'm just sharing the precedent up until now.

Foreigners, aliens who belong to blah blah blah

I want actual, real world practical solutions that actually solve the fucking problem.

Yes, but that precedent flies on the face of the 14th

Dread Scott was precedent

The court can get shit wrong because they're politically motivated

No it doesn't. Not in my reading at least. But ultimately it will depend on the reading of six men and three women it seems.

You can't have your own personal truth regarding the meaning of the 14th. The framers made it clear in their writings

It would never have occurred me that something so foundational would be controversial.

You can't bend reality to justify bad policy post hoc

It is clear to me. And everyone else until a few weeks ago.

People have disagreed with this for a while. It just wasn;t in the spotlight till Trump said something

Until a few weeks ago nobody dreamed that even Trump would have the balls to challenge this.

Remember, we're not making the case to implement birthright citizenship. Birthright citizenship has been the law of the land for 150 years.

Yes, and that law is based on unconstitutional rulings on the 14th by leftists judges

Looks like we'll all have to agree to disagree

I would like to see some of these 19th century rulings on the citizen ship of illegal alien children.

Now next question, IF birthright citizenship is overturned what does that mean for all of us? Will we all have to prove our lineage back to someone legally naturalized or to someone here when the nation was formed in 1789? Or to a slave brought to the country before 1865? Or a native american?

How many will suddenly find themselves unable to prove they belong here?

And what about destroyed records? What records will count?

Justicar mentioned that!
if Birthright Citizenship is unconstitutional, all unconstitutional aquired citizenships can (and will) be revoked

Depending on the number of illegal aliens, probably a few million.

thus the persoons deportet

Will we all have to go scouring courthouses for old birth and death records?

But Stefan, how far back do you go?

In fact, no. The bureaucracy, bloated as it might be, can probably do some primitive work in trimming down the people they need to check.

That's for *CONGRESS* to decide.

What if you find you can't prove your own right to be here?

Where is the burden of proof?

if CONGRESS don't to the beginning.

I don't think Stefan has a right to be here at all.