Message from @halfthink

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2018-12-11 03:28:18 UTC  

Lmao

2018-12-11 04:37:14 UTC  

Japan has regulations to try and maintain food independence

2018-12-11 04:38:00 UTC  

There's plenty of room if the let US and Australia be thier breadbasket

2018-12-11 04:41:49 UTC  

That already have an economy problem, importing more would only increase it, i would expect.

2018-12-11 04:42:02 UTC  

So it kind of makes sense, to maintain that independence.

2018-12-11 10:34:59 UTC  

green day isnt punk, change my mind

2018-12-11 12:51:54 UTC  

Green day was punk in the 90s. Stopped being punk in the GWB era.

2018-12-11 13:42:06 UTC  

If Japan would stop tarrifing so much I expect they'd export more. I bet it'd more than even out.

2018-12-11 14:25:27 UTC  

Japan already has a trade surplus. It isn't falling for the free trade scam.

2018-12-11 14:33:40 UTC  

Yes, Japan suffers disproportionately from an absence of free trade.

2018-12-11 14:34:15 UTC  

Thier cost of living is inflated and thier quality of life suffers

2018-12-11 14:34:26 UTC  

Thier young people suffer the most

2018-12-11 14:39:59 UTC  

Nothing to do with free trade.

2018-12-11 15:07:01 UTC  

The fact that their prices are ridiculously high has everything to do with free trade. Apples, rice, etc are all tarrifed to death so Japanese pay a lot more for their food than they should if they traded freely.

2018-12-11 15:13:42 UTC  

And?

2018-12-11 15:15:16 UTC  

'Goods prices are all that matter' is the free trade scammer's favorite misleading premise/talking point.

2018-12-11 15:21:16 UTC  

>goods prices have nothing to do with cost of living
🤔

2018-12-11 15:22:15 UTC  

Not nothing, and not everything.

2018-12-11 15:33:38 UTC  

literally everything by definition

2018-12-11 15:35:56 UTC  

Prices are just one component of cost of living. The other is income.

2018-12-11 15:36:20 UTC  

which is another price

2018-12-11 15:37:28 UTC  

Your problem is that we don't have a free market in money.

2018-12-11 15:37:38 UTC  

We don't have a free market in anything.

2018-12-11 15:37:52 UTC  

That is the most important one.

2018-12-11 15:38:20 UTC  

If that is granted, all else follows.

2018-12-11 15:39:02 UTC  

You can blame the ECB for the uprising in france more than macron.

2018-12-11 15:54:40 UTC  

If it doesn't have "nothing to do with free trade", why would you say it did, verbatim, in a discussion about cost of living?

2018-12-11 15:57:13 UTC  

The social problems usually claimed about Japan are not due to trade.

2018-12-11 15:59:37 UTC  

That's not what was being discussed, for starters. Second it could easily be argued that high cost of living contributes to social issues

2018-12-11 16:02:11 UTC  

And so-called free trade contributes to social issues.

2018-12-11 16:03:11 UTC  

The free trade you admitted doesn't exist contributes to social issues?

2018-12-11 16:03:44 UTC  

That was a statement about free trade in general.

2018-12-11 16:04:14 UTC  

Okay, so where's the social-issue-causing free trade?

2018-12-11 16:06:08 UTC  

The decline of domestic production is rather obviously social-issue-causing.

2018-12-11 16:06:27 UTC  

misallocations of resources causes the boom bust cycle, so it seems logical to regulate markets, but credit expansions are what causes misallocations of resources, so the correct solution is the opposite of what seems intuitive.

2018-12-11 16:07:00 UTC  

Reading Mises is a misallocation of resources.

2018-12-11 16:07:08 UTC  

lol. kill yourself

2018-12-11 16:07:14 UTC  

Only if people refuse to adapt to the market. Further the consolidation of power in the hands of corporations (a government defined entity, need I remind you) and high cost anti competitive practices is anything but free trade

2018-12-11 16:09:56 UTC  

If the market isn't free then there's no reason for us to adapt to it.

2018-12-11 16:10:44 UTC  

Anything other than perfect competition is socialism. Reeeeeeeeeeeeee