Message from @Beemann
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If Japan would stop tarrifing so much I expect they'd export more. I bet it'd more than even out.
Japan already has a trade surplus. It isn't falling for the free trade scam.
Yes, Japan suffers disproportionately from an absence of free trade.
Thier cost of living is inflated and thier quality of life suffers
Thier young people suffer the most
Nothing to do with free trade.
The fact that their prices are ridiculously high has everything to do with free trade. Apples, rice, etc are all tarrifed to death so Japanese pay a lot more for their food than they should if they traded freely.
And?
'Goods prices are all that matter' is the free trade scammer's favorite misleading premise/talking point.
>goods prices have nothing to do with cost of living
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Not nothing, and not everything.
literally everything by definition
Prices are just one component of cost of living. The other is income.
which is another price
Your problem is that we don't have a free market in money.
We don't have a free market in anything.
That is the most important one.
If that is granted, all else follows.
You can blame the ECB for the uprising in france more than macron.
If it doesn't have "nothing to do with free trade", why would you say it did, verbatim, in a discussion about cost of living?
The social problems usually claimed about Japan are not due to trade.
That's not what was being discussed, for starters. Second it could easily be argued that high cost of living contributes to social issues
And so-called free trade contributes to social issues.
The free trade you admitted doesn't exist contributes to social issues?
That was a statement about free trade in general.
Okay, so where's the social-issue-causing free trade?
The decline of domestic production is rather obviously social-issue-causing.
misallocations of resources causes the boom bust cycle, so it seems logical to regulate markets, but credit expansions are what causes misallocations of resources, so the correct solution is the opposite of what seems intuitive.
Reading Mises is a misallocation of resources.
lol. kill yourself
Only if people refuse to adapt to the market. Further the consolidation of power in the hands of corporations (a government defined entity, need I remind you) and high cost anti competitive practices is anything but free trade
If the market isn't free then there's no reason for us to adapt to it.
Anything other than perfect competition is socialism. Reeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>there's no need to adapt to conditions if they aren't market driven
>but this one segment of this larger system is "free trade", so free trade is the cause of social ills
The 'free trade' regime we have is the cause of social ills. Whether the current regime truly represents the ideology is beside the point.
Wot
>discussing a concept
>it doesn't matter if X actually matches that concept
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There may be a self-preserving rational argument for adapting to non-free market conditions, but there's no economic argument.
The real social ills are caused by the attempt to realize the free trade concept. It's like the socialists constantly chasing 'real socialism'.
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>government mandated and regulated pursuit of profit growth is pursuit of a free market
I guess socialism is now the free market too. Everything is free market