Message from @Vannevariable
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ySC7edHO0 please share with your friends
good luck i suppose, seems tough to show evidence
Please share with a freind and let them know if they have anything please contact the gentleman in the video
Youtuber law is doing a hero's work
Yes he is
Ok wtf
Who did it now
Imma fuk u up
What are my options now. I've been following the patreon debacle from a far...but haven't moved away from it yet. How do I pay you Time?
**Tim
he has like a recurring paypal thing on his website
Yeah, be mindful that you'll lose your rank once you drop your patreon.
as in, IMMEDIATELY.
"Imma fuk u..." -Sexual Harrassment Coochie
@Hops I think he mentioned a direct payment method. Subscribestar *might* pull out of the Great Yeeting? I havent been keeping up
@Timcast sargon lied to everyone he said that patreon did not give him a warning when they did he just did this whole thing for publicity
Im curious, you got evidence?
citations plz
because that'd change... well honestly it would change a large bit, but their banning him is still against their ToS at the time.
and if you're talking about the whole vidcon thing, that was no warning. They call it a warning because apparently "them talking about him" is a warning
Pretty sure if Patreon gave him (or others) a warning they would have said as much when discussing the situation.
If that was the case, that chick would have said so.
She didn't. So the truth is somewhere in between
it's more likely patreon is claiming "X = a warning" retroactively.
because we know they're already doing that
but more importantly... what if patreon itself isn't ruled by activists, but instead is being pressured by paypal and stripe? We know Paypal threw Jihadhiwatch out because mastercard told them too.
IMHO, the moneylenders look like they're weighing in on the culture war
I've been watching everyone post and listening intently to Tim and even Styx the past two weeks. As I see it, the hyper-polarized west is a losing proposition for companies that have any control over who they partner with. There are many who will not do business with people who partner with those who hold views they see as abhorrent. On the other hand, there are those who won't do business with those who restrict speech to "mainstream" sensibilities.
That vid by Tim yesterday about efforts to maintain a seemly discourse on Twitch left me really thinking about my own actions. There are games I don't play simply because I don't like the comments I have to read or the behaviors I see. I have better things to do with my time than deal with mean people. I know many others who are turned off by the meanness endemic in many online games or gaming venues. The general dickery limits the audience and the growth potential of games. But when the companies try to police speech, they get whacked by their core players. So companies are given a lose-lose choice of either letting the toxic environment continue and limiting their market to a core group of people who like it, or restrict speech so they can appeal to broader audiences but get hit by the ire of their core players. Whether a company "gets woke" or not, they still go broke...or at least make less money than if the only issue was the quality of the game.
Problem is: you have to reward players for good behaviour not punish them for bad.
Insightful post
next problem: You ain't dealin with Adults here, most of the time...
we're talking (more often than not) about 10-15 year old youngsters.
So if we're talking about for example Tom Clancy's The Division, you first have to deal with everyone that is underaged.
I disagree we see in adults too
Of course, like that asshole Twitch Streamer that Jeremy mentioned a couple of days ago that got killed by someone.
toxic people like that should be banned from that game for life and other online games for 6 months
So you do believe in punishing people for bad behavior
if we are talking about hurting the other one in real life, yes.
in this case we're talking about false DMCA Claims