Message from @DrYuriMom
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No one likes what he is saying, but we cant limit in the intake, even though what he is saying threatens violence.
At what point is speech more than speech, when they are holding the gun, or when they say the next time they will be.
You get my drift? Freedom of speech is limited, we gotta draw the line at an agreeable position. You cant threaten me, I cant threaten you.
Pretty agreeable to me
It's kinda like that thing where it's not protected speech to yell fire in a crowded theater.
The reason being, you are lieing to cause a panic.
Well if your telling the truth its okay
but there will always be someone who belives you are saying the truth and somone who doesnt so i dont think the Free speech should be regulated it should be Free as its name implies and is your choice to believe the person and make preparations about possible outcomes because you cant protect yourself from words but can protect yourseflves from actions
we already HAVE laws punishing incitement to violence
yes, speech should be free.
at the same time, we need to teach people not to believe anything they hear.
or read, in the case of the internet.
And what about Mainstream Media?
Like the lies about the AfD, Trump and all other regime critic?
first of all, that would be mitigated by people not believing everything they read/hear. Second of all... don't we have a law stating satire doesn't class as satire if it's not explicitly stated to be so?
If they lie they should have the right to, and then be sued for defamation if they don't retract blatantly false statements. And the court of public opinion should also work against them.
IDK if that's viable though...
I wasn't talking about Satire. I was talking about them beeing serious.
and lying about violence and claiming that it was right wing radicals burning shit.
When in reality it was left wing radicals.
so no, your idea is bullshit because you miss 2/3 of the Problem. Because the Legacy Media is the main problem right now, less the shit of the Internet. Most people realize that it ain't true.
but the old pensioner still believe the lies on TV and in the Papers.
```at the same time, we need to teach people not to believe anything they hear.
or read, in the case of the internet.````
The last part of that.
Its not limited to the Internet, that's bullshit.
Agree
People should always scrutinize data before they make it information.
That's science.
oh that thing leftists have rejected for years now?
yeah, they've replaced it with a true upgrade: feelings and hearsay
Don't forget Taboo and religious dogma.
leftists use religious dogma? I suppose... that'd be the only religious stuff they'd use XD
@GoldenPhoenix they have their own religion
religion of political correctnes
you know how fanatics of religions cant make good jokes or cant take a jokes it is basicaly church of political corectness call the modern “Left”
I can see that. I have a personal aversion to citing religious dogma and such for reasoning, because that's not all that religion is. Religion is important and healthy to society (conceptually, not always in practice), but it should be used together with rigorous logic and science, rather than in place of it during decision making.
you even have religion of science (thats where mad scientists are created)
everything
takem to extremes
is bad
Yes. Moderation is the key. We can discuss all day how much government or economic policy or religion or science we should use, and there's a lot of nuance, but we can at least mostly agree that the all-or-nothing mentality is bad
should "free speech" extend to private forums (private as in created by individuals for express purposes)? discuss
Not by law, but the people who are building those platforms should 100% be applying it to their forums. If you don't keep the principles in habit in your private life you aren't going to be voting for people who do.
Is nudism the ultimate expression of freedom of speech?