Message from @Ed Money

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2019-01-25 08:03:36 UTC  

Also basics was the worst.

2019-01-25 08:04:20 UTC  

and I don't get why people want to subject a generation to that kind of torture.

2019-01-25 08:07:41 UTC  

but if such an act is to be enacted, then yeah, I wholefully agree that it should encompass all genders

2019-01-25 08:08:10 UTC  

if they are deemed capable and meeting the standard fitness

2019-01-25 09:30:42 UTC  

*>I would only say a draft would be needed in desperate times.*
If you need the draft, it's not desperate.

2019-01-25 13:18:03 UTC  

I feel mixed about it. A militis draft in the event of an invasion makes sense, and the structure and discipline of the military is sorely needed in light of the LACK of it in the educational system. That being said... forcing someone to fight and die on foreign soil hits a big stop sign in my head.

2019-01-25 13:19:45 UTC  

But Tum did point out the existence of noncombat positions. Hell, Mr. Native American from the CovKids scandal was drafted as a fridge repairman IIRC.

2019-01-25 13:20:13 UTC  

I don't see a draft being necessary unless it's foreign invasion or giant world war type situation

2019-01-25 13:21:10 UTC  

Perhaps work it into the education system as live experience internship?

2019-01-25 13:21:40 UTC  

Thus the dems can't complain about armed militias too

2019-01-25 13:22:05 UTC  

it would severely fuck up the economy due to having a giant army and having a large part of the population not in the general workforce

2019-01-25 13:22:32 UTC  

Not if it's temporary and included for like a year as education.

2019-01-25 13:22:53 UTC  

It could also gateway into more permanent service, if the individual wants

2019-01-25 13:23:37 UTC  

it would still require a great amount of resources to maintain an army of that size

2019-01-25 13:24:21 UTC  

True... it'd be like a bootcamp, but built into the educational system.

2019-01-25 13:24:45 UTC  

And that van't be cheap

2019-01-25 13:26:21 UTC  

possibly but I would think there are better things you can invest in from a education standpoint, like trade schools

2019-01-25 14:56:41 UTC  

Hitler ended unemployment with a draft. A true hero to keynesians.

2019-01-25 15:06:29 UTC  

Styx about Ebola in Africa.

2019-01-25 15:08:00 UTC  

I prefer the Toto version

2019-01-25 15:10:03 UTC  

Whoa, raging Styx is awesome 😄

2019-01-25 15:12:11 UTC  

not a fan of Come Sail Away but enjoy Lady

2019-01-25 16:12:04 UTC  

>mandatory service
>not just going full Heinlein

2019-01-25 17:12:04 UTC  

there's value in the training and service, but forcing people to go to war is just not something I can back

2019-01-25 17:13:12 UTC  

I mean if you did something like bootcamp in school, it would just be bording school.

2019-01-25 17:13:32 UTC  

Bootcamp is a lot like a bording school really, you just learn to be a soldier.

2019-01-25 17:14:41 UTC  

I mean, the thing about mandatory boot camp is that it would include gun competency.

2019-01-25 17:14:55 UTC  

and you could classify people as part of a "well trained militia"

2019-01-25 17:15:02 UTC  

because they WERE trained

2019-01-25 17:16:55 UTC  

If you put people into Bootcamp+AIT/equivilant, it would clock in under a year depending on MOS, I am guessing most would be 'rifleman' equivilant meaning they don't have a super long AIT, you could see the entire population do it, but I would still not suport it manditorily, I think it should be a concious effort on the part of the individual.

2019-01-25 17:17:02 UTC  

You need to want it.

2019-01-25 17:32:21 UTC  

yeah, that's fair

2019-01-25 17:32:32 UTC  

I imagine that's why the "do this or don't vote" aspect is in play

2019-01-25 17:32:45 UTC  

but that seems... a bit to far?

2019-01-25 17:38:11 UTC  

It is too far to disenfranchize people for it

2019-01-25 17:38:20 UTC  

Voting is treason.

2019-01-25 17:38:29 UTC  

like 75% of the population is medicaly disqualified

2019-01-25 17:38:39 UTC  

Soy.

2019-01-25 17:39:08 UTC  

I was medicaly disqualified after joining for Asthma

2019-01-25 17:39:49 UTC  

I was medically disqualified for having a Y chromosome.