the problems that the united states has with firearms isint simply because not enough of our people are armed, its because theres no meaningful reason to care about anyone you live with while most of the people you lived with are armed and ignorent of the consaquences of themselves being armed., a problem increasing with each generation

Whats the benefit of paying more for border security than the border wall?

to me it sounds like you will be paying alot more over a longer period for security than the wall because the wall will pay for itself over time

until it needs to be repaired, yes

but even then the cost to benefit ratio is ludicrously skewed

Yeah and how much would be maintenance compared to rebuilding a new wall

Build the iron curtain!

hm. I hadn't considered that parallel

I mean I get it, but..

If you paid the same amount for personnel and equipment how far would that go? Lets say motion sensors, vehicles, and the like

There are alot of moving parts in equipment and would therefore need more maintenance than a simple wall

Then lets say they detected something out and went to investigate it

by the time they arrive whatever was out there might be long gone

at which point you created a glorified meter

A wall impedes movement and is a deterrent

sure some will still find ways to go around it but if it reduces like 95% of the traffic it would have done its job well

you can never stop something 100% of the time and people are mostly lazy

yep

dems must think everyone is retarded to not have figured this basic stuff out

to be fair it seems like its really hard to convince people of this logic

more than one would expect to at least

whats worse is that the amount needed for the wall wouldn't even register for a comparison against the total budget

You can also make the wall break out into dangerous areas and let nature be a deterrence. Like having it break half way into a dessert.

i died

@Vannevariable : "well regulated militia". Not "well trained".

Anyone with experience In US jury duty, that can answer my question.
From my side of the pond, it looks more like the Mueller Probe is going more after “petty” crime instead of keeping focus on the Russian collusion suspicion. Is the jury involved in any way in the scope of the investigation?

as far as I know no... the Mueller Probe is just a witch hunt at this point, as after two years they haven't found anything on Trump's inner circle.

this is a democratic play to attack him and at the same time keep him from removing democratic officials in the FBI from office

Or you know, he had all of his bases covered well enough to not leave crumbs that can be traced back to him.

And will take a long time to unravel the body of the tentacle.

even if trump is guilty of anything, which honestly theres nothing to give any credence to that idea, hes had 2 years to get rid of anything mueller doesent already know, thats one reason why this is very unlikely to go anywhere

thats one misconsception about investigations, evidence isint static, when people know your trying to dig something up on them they are going to try and get rid of something. the investigation itself assumes that the culprets are going to be lazy and overconfadent and that witnesses will be readly avalible and willing to tell anything. this case was kinda doomed after the 6 month mark when nothing was found

Also a reason why my country had been struggling to unravel a former dictator's vast amount of corruption charges because it's been difficult to find the paper trails.

It's been 21 years since he resigned from the seat of power and even though everyone knows he and his family did things badly, it's still extremely difficult to find the evidence.

Thanks America for destroying a country by doing a coup and putting a dictator on the seat of power.

for the 10th time

lets not forget the other 10 that failed to do that

Let's not forget that the probe may come under investigation now.

Which would be disastrous for it most likely

@DrYuriMom "Well-regulated" in military contexts doesn't mean controlled by the government. It means well-organized and equipped.

"Every citizen should have a shoulder arm and enough shot to fight as a light infantry soldier should time of war require it."