Message from @Khanclansith

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2019-02-14 13:09:46 UTC  

I'd say legitimate would mean it actually happened.
That's a fair point tbh, there's really no alternative. Didn't really think about alternatives. I mean, my main gripe these days is regarding lynch mobs on both sides (Mobs that insult both the accuser and the accused).

2019-02-14 13:10:17 UTC  

And I guess sexual assault being so hard to prove only worsens the issue

2019-02-14 15:15:10 UTC  

Sexual assault, unfortunately, has an aspect of subjectivity. Even in cases of rape, a lot of times the best "evidence" you have is that some form of sex act occurred. Which, if an act occurred and there is solid proof that it occurred, if the victim says it was sexual harassment or assault, then the only way to prove it was not is to find evidence to change the context to prove the victim is lying.

2019-02-14 15:16:57 UTC  

for example, was it mattress girl?, there was some college student accused by another student of rape. There was plenty of evidence that the event did happen. However, it was latter shown by pulling facebook and text messages that the event that occurred was consensual. more over, she was hounding him for more after the event occurred. and it was only after he refused her that she claimed rape.

2019-02-14 15:18:51 UTC  

so, if you cannot prove outside context, and all you have is that an event happened

2019-02-14 15:19:52 UTC  

do you assume innocence? do you assume guilt?

2019-02-14 15:34:05 UTC  

We could go the shiria law way, and punish the woman for no longer being pure.

2019-02-14 20:27:06 UTC  

There's a concept called the "burden of proof" that must be fulfilled for any legal action to take hold. Rape is a sketchy gray area, but we need to keep 3 things in mind about rape cases. 1, the burden of proof in any dispute falls on the person making an active claim, not the person being claimed against. 2, because of the previous point, the defendant defaults to "not guilty" until sufficient evidence is provided to make them guilty in the eyes of a court. 3, our legal system is not a representation of what happened or a definitive authority on history, it is simply a mediator for disputes based on quantifiable evidence. With this in mind, a "not guilty" verdict does not make the accuser a liar, nor does a "guilty" verdict make the defendant a perpetrator, it simply means that evidence provided was either sufficient or insufficient to result in a legal intervention. Normally this aligns with reality, but it won't always.

2019-02-15 02:17:11 UTC  

Hey guys... wanna talk about World War 3 predictions?

2019-02-15 02:17:31 UTC  

Sure. I predict it won't happen.

2019-02-15 02:18:04 UTC  

Nevermind, the slowmode timer is WAY too high for my liking...

2019-02-15 02:18:49 UTC  

Yeah, debates are waaay more fun when you don't have the time to think about your response. :v

2019-02-15 02:31:02 UTC  

Take it to free for all

2019-02-15 03:34:58 UTC  

WW3 will be Civil War in Europe, native Population vs. Muslim Caliphate Insurgents

2019-02-15 05:23:59 UTC  

And amerixa and elsewhere will be dragged in as a result

2019-02-15 05:25:32 UTC  

Israel vs islamic militants will also draw in Brazil

2019-02-15 05:48:26 UTC  

My work requires me to constantly google things. Most jobs in the future will be like that. Free college is a good thing.

2019-02-15 05:49:27 UTC  

Without free college we will have a nation of neanderthals

2019-02-15 05:49:50 UTC  

Still pushing BS?

2019-02-15 05:50:38 UTC  

You gotta trust Google

2019-02-15 05:50:58 UTC  

Free College means the STATE gets control of what you study. So say good by to picking your choice of degrees.

2019-02-15 05:51:09 UTC  

It’s not perfect but it’s pretty good

2019-02-15 05:52:18 UTC  

Look how that helped the USSR, oh wait. When the Curtian fell geniuses who were denied school came to work in the west and aced college course

2019-02-15 05:52:24 UTC  

It would still be a net gain for social progress

2019-02-15 05:53:26 UTC  

Social progress is the fruit earned by society, not a gift from the government. When the government gains control stuff goes to hell.

2019-02-15 05:54:15 UTC  

Keep trying to sell snake oil and I will keep calling you out on your BS

2019-02-15 05:55:25 UTC  

Like actually read it and tell me what you learned about Bernie Sanders position on this

2019-02-15 05:55:27 UTC  

I have read the arguments for free college, who know who wrote them? People who waisted their money getting degrees that don't pay a living wage.

2019-02-15 05:58:27 UTC  

Colleges are set up to be debt factories, and Making the Government pay for them won't improve anything. If you want to improve the world, ban Student loans. Make kids earn scholarships or save up. The students will treat their education as a thing they are earning not a joke that they will some day have to deal with.

2019-02-15 06:00:19 UTC  

This is i nice relaxing game loop for me

2019-02-15 06:01:20 UTC  

Check facts you make with Google, read, post, listen to people who clearly don’t understand

2019-02-15 06:01:52 UTC  

Easy loop

2019-02-15 06:02:23 UTC  

Man it is so much fun

2019-02-15 06:02:53 UTC  

Pulling up confirmation bias supporting pages don't help. they keep you being an asshat.

2019-02-15 06:03:11 UTC  

Alright, back to hate fucking

2019-02-15 06:04:07 UTC  

Don’t talk back to your superior in the marines cuz you get raped

2019-02-15 06:04:13 UTC  

Try looking at things from other points of view and look at the problem differently. If someone keeps spreading the same thing, ask why. Challange them

2019-02-15 06:04:40 UTC  

I am clearly the authority here

2019-02-15 06:04:45 UTC  

My job was to tell officers when they were full of shit and their great idea wouldn't work.

2019-02-15 06:05:26 UTC  

God damn I love free speech