Message from @JadenFrostwolf

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2018-01-21 17:34:22 UTC  

@pukeblood "according to WHO it does"

2018-01-21 17:34:36 UTC  

yeah their definition is right there lmao

2018-01-21 17:34:42 UTC  

all it says is "while drunk"

2018-01-21 17:34:57 UTC  

it CAN be interpreted that way, thats a problem

2018-01-21 17:35:09 UTC  

yes, so our discussion was over whether context and degree mattered. My statement was meant to be read as more or less 1 drink = no agency

2018-01-21 17:35:21 UTC  

"Drunk" means different things to different people, basically.

2018-01-21 17:37:20 UTC  

also from WHO; http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/terminology/who_lexicon/en/
"Intoxication is highly dependent on the type and dose of drug and is influenced by an individual's level of tolerance and other factors. Frequently, a drug is taken in order to achieve a desired degree of intoxication. The behavioural expression of a given level of intoxication is strongly influenced by cultural and personal expectations about the effects of the drug."

2018-01-21 17:41:15 UTC  

obviously these cases need to be solved uniquely, regarding the drinking ones, meanwhile a majority of the problem stems from relationship abuse and that doesnt seem to have come up in all the activism surrounding rape culture

2018-01-21 17:41:47 UTC  

@pukeblood, in my experience its a major topic of discussion amongst people informed on the topic

2018-01-21 17:41:48 UTC  

we trivialize drunk sex because its socially acceptable, even according to the CSA study, but I dont think we trivialize relationship abuse

2018-01-21 17:42:51 UTC  

Even less so when it comes to men. I know that is kind of out-of-nowhere, but even going off of that study, I don't think it's a leap in logic to assume that a lot of male victims of abuse don't report what is happening to them.

2018-01-21 17:43:43 UTC  

Laci Green for example, talks about this a bunch

2018-01-21 17:44:48 UTC  

Aside from the studies, for the sake of clarity, my only real "experience" with these kinds of issues is what I leaned while attending some lower-level criminal justice and law enforcement classes.

2018-01-21 17:45:02 UTC  

good, it SHOULD come up, we SHOULDNT ruin mens careers/futures for going to parties and having sex with culturally-defined consenting adults

2018-01-21 17:45:35 UTC  

i mean

2018-01-21 17:45:36 UTC  

one of my roomates had this whistle blown at him

2018-01-21 17:45:38 UTC  

the solution is to just

2018-01-21 17:45:43 UTC  

go to the police

2018-01-21 17:45:46 UTC  

so I get med

2018-01-21 17:46:24 UTC  

@pukeblood my best friend was falsely accused to.

2018-01-21 17:47:13 UTC  

On a *somewhat* related topic, my friend who is probably as left as one can be without going full-on "SJW" was called a racist recently.

2018-01-21 17:47:45 UTC  

extreme-left is racism, how left are they?

2018-01-21 17:48:12 UTC  

@JadenFrostwolf Rascism seems to be an ill-defined and poorly understood term these days. I went to weird high school with a lot of poor black kids (basically the school was situated such that it drew a middle class white population and poor black population

2018-01-21 17:48:24 UTC  

I would say "typical college indoctrinate" level, but not quite that far?

2018-01-21 17:48:27 UTC  

My friends said i was being rascist when i said the black kids were the kids who did all the fighting.

2018-01-21 17:48:32 UTC  

Facts ain't rascist yo

2018-01-21 17:48:43 UTC  

ooo but "hate facts" are

2018-01-21 17:49:22 UTC  

What he essentially said was that the children of Chinese immigrants might have a hard time adjusting to our culture.

2018-01-21 17:49:34 UTC  

That's it.

2018-01-21 17:50:29 UTC  

yeah ive seen people say "I like asian women" referring to dating preference, be called racist

2018-01-21 17:50:48 UTC  

stupid racist penis

2018-01-21 17:51:07 UTC  

Hey man, keep your holocaust cock away from us

2018-01-21 17:51:19 UTC  

Genocide by sexual preference ain't cool

2018-01-21 17:51:38 UTC  

tell that to every species on the planet

2018-01-21 17:51:44 UTC  

why wont that horse fuck that dolphin

2018-01-21 17:51:47 UTC  

god damn ignorant

2018-01-21 17:52:45 UTC  

Anyway, to bring the original topic back, I think abuse and domestic violence are issues that aren't specific to college campuses. People being victims of abuse and not wanting to or not being able to leave their abuser is something that happens everywhere, and this is definitely something that can be and should be brought up.

2018-01-21 17:53:24 UTC  

I forget what the study said, if it was more or less than what takes place outside of those colleges.

2018-01-21 17:56:42 UTC  

hows this for victim blaming, the study definitely mentions an increase, on-par with being in abusive relationship, stemming from being abused before college

2018-01-21 17:56:50 UTC  

so victims tend to get victimized

2018-01-21 17:57:55 UTC  

there are so many things that we think deserve justice that, I believe, come from a deep-seated lack of mental health examination