Message from @CreativeRealms
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Yeah.
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Destiny vs Jontron was interesting.
In a bad way.
Jontron is a smart guy, he's just not very practiced at debates.
Yeah
Jontron isn't that smart
he doesn't have a well fleshed out view of politics
he shouldn't have taken the debate
Not having the full picture and thinking that you do doesn't make you inherently dumb in all aspects. That's kind of a blanket-statement.
he was at serious risk of romanticising the alt-right
I don’t think he fully understood what the alt-right is.
I think you have to listen for what he was *trying* to say, since he didn't articulate it all that well.
Yeah
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he's a funny guy, I like him, but I don't think a lot of the opinions he gave in that debate weren't his own.
I don't know if they 'weren't his own' or not, since only he knows, but I tihnk it's safe to say he just worded them really badly.
I think he, like a lot of people, is just a displaced leftie
Sargon sort of backed him up by saying he doesn’t know how to present his views properly.
Thinking vs. knowing are two different things.
I'd be awful at articulating my thoughts in a verbal debate
yeah, he is literally reiterating my point.
then don't do it
>don't practice at stuff you aren't inherently good at
its fine not to do a debate that you aren't confident with
>don't attempt to better yourself
I gotta build that confidence.
I gotta learn and practice.
And sometimes, that means putting myself in stressful situations.
Can always use VC but most of us probably agree with each other on a lot of topics.
if you want to do the debate, I'm not going to stop you, but I'm just saying that 1.you should prepare before hand and 2.remember that the debate is about convincing the audience
Probably on most topics.
I don't see the debate being about solely convincing someone else of something
It’s both convincing yourself and others.
I'd much rather go in on an even field, wanting to learn and _'expand my horizons'_
Tbh, I like your attitude a lot, because you are taking the responsibility of learning into your own hands.
That's my main goal tbh
Yeah.
Again, saying and doing are two different things. Human beings are very biased creatures.
its better to go into the debate with a solid understanding than to just appeal to emotions and push logical fallacies.