That's as many didn't come here with the intention of integration

In the most recent large wave

Since it got up around 300,000 per year in the UK

but 100 years ago, the Middle East studied the west to try and learn the secret to their success, but by that time it was too late. The rot had already set in, and socialism and nationalism were taking over. Thats why the Middle East is filled with Theocratic Fascist and Socialist states like Hamas.

I told you, the reason why they aren't integrating is because we are telling them to hold onto their culture.

in other words **its our fault**

nah, those places became like that because they believe in groups. its a case of "your tribe is a bunch of animals", and WE are the true faithful, and our spiritual leaders decide who is right and who isn't

Many wouldn't let go anyways and yes I can agree with that

We don't put our standards above theirs

America's problem is America. Britain's problem is Britain. Germany's problem is Germany. How hard is that to see?

and i agree, the reason they're bringing their shit here is because we for some reason as a society decreed that even though for hundreds of years, our culture was CLEARLY superior and the one people should want to adopt, we tell tehm their barbaric views are just as wise as ours because "equality"

This Is the ultimate failure of multiculturalism

yes, its cultural relativism from the intellectual class.

And it won't change until we bring back the enlightenment.

no its the ultimate failure of collective thinking, where the "group" is more important than the individual

under the current leftist "group" every single view is equal, and truth is an opinion, hence the individual doesn't matter anymore, what the group thinks, is what is truth

Self hatred and fundamentalist looking equality

and thats just madness

True madness

but collective thinking is part of the philosophy of today

its a central part of altruism.

philosophy is asking questions in everything

collective thinking isn't asking questions, its accepting orders

That is the great truth that Ayn Rand understood but everyone refused to accept

its that Altruism **requires** that you put the group above the individual.

they didn't refuse to accept, they realised Ayn Rand was stupid in her Objectivism

Also philosophy is relevant but the worst part is the post modernism, it's not enough for things to be true

They care who said it, not what is said

**Post-modernism stems from altruism**

Plato ==> Kant ==> Nietzcshe ==> Marx.

Altruism isn't the most human trait as they go

What we're doing right now is Objectivism, trying to find a way without emotions, no subjective opinions, jsut the "flat truth"

Whilst this is waht we would WANT to achieve, humans are group animals, and most are idiots

Objectivism won't work to run a society because idiots will gladly destroy it in name of whatever carrot a smarter person dangles before them

Unless voluntary out of friendship

thats not what objectivism is

I have to admit that this conversation has kinda gone over my head now, so I'm just reading.

you are assuming that people don't have the capacity for reason.

If anything its an overriding of wishful thinking

Feelings being the issue

Cynicism is the tragedy of our age. It is what prevents people from accepting that when given rights, people don't just murder and steal from each other.

People just want trump to be evil to they get cognitive dissonance and serious biases

the market is the ultimate embodiment of objectivism.

its individuals trading value for value.

i'm not saying people don't have the capacity for reason

I'm saying that the overwhelming majority of people will gladly throw reason aside in order to be in a place where they feel like they belong (the pack)