Message from @WOODY

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2018-01-23 02:05:10 UTC  

it's not a permanent solution

2018-01-23 02:05:10 UTC  

you cant just devolve society back to individuals

2018-01-23 02:05:22 UTC  

Again, it goes back to this. People need to become more independant, and be able to stand on their own two feet.

2018-01-23 02:05:33 UTC  

i agree completely

2018-01-23 02:05:47 UTC  

er

2018-01-23 02:05:54 UTC  

I'm pretty sure that was argued for earlier.

2018-01-23 02:05:59 UTC  

which if the human race expects to get anywhere, they will start by starting to cut people off of welfare that have nothing wrong with them

2018-01-23 02:06:01 UTC  

that is why I'm advocating for people to become selfish.

2018-01-23 02:06:30 UTC  

its not selfish to build a career

2018-01-23 02:06:30 UTC  

rationally selfish people do not rely on or exploit others.

2018-01-23 02:06:35 UTC  

yes it is

2018-01-23 02:06:41 UTC  

no it's not

2018-01-23 02:06:44 UTC  

and you knwo it

2018-01-23 02:06:46 UTC  

the rest of society depends on it

2018-01-23 02:06:48 UTC  

I'm going to have to completely disagree with you there. It's a fucked and doomed-to-fail system if everyone only ever thinks of themselves

2018-01-23 02:06:52 UTC  

it's selfish to sit there and take their tax money

2018-01-23 02:07:07 UTC  

for the government maybe

2018-01-23 02:07:14 UTC  

and when I got here, you were telling people that beingforced to be someone's personal bank account was a selfless act

2018-01-23 02:07:20 UTC  

which it's not

2018-01-23 02:07:20 UTC  

The world is already feeling that effect. People just waltz on by homeless people all the time. Little to no empathy.

2018-01-23 02:07:23 UTC  

but its not rational, because eventaully the money will dry up

2018-01-23 02:08:34 UTC  

@Enigmus most walk by because they can't help, because they can barely afford to feed themselves despite working

2018-01-23 02:08:50 UTC  

Keyword

2018-01-23 02:08:52 UTC  

"Most"

2018-01-23 02:09:49 UTC  

look, if you wanted to sum up what I want politically: 1. complete deregulation of markets 2. disolution of the welfare state 3. Massive reduction in taxes and the size of the state in general

2018-01-23 02:09:56 UTC  

The human race will devolve quite a lot if everyone only ever thought of themselves. We'd devolve into a savage and awful race if literally everyone took to their own devices, and were so short-sighted as to think that only their goals and interests mattered, because they're them, not other people.

2018-01-23 02:10:01 UTC  

Just look at the human race today

2018-01-23 02:10:07 UTC  

Loooots of selfishness

2018-01-23 02:10:20 UTC  

Oh lookey, warlords in Africa

2018-01-23 02:10:31 UTC  

Oh hey, Adolf, how do you do?

2018-01-23 02:10:36 UTC  

do you really think to think short term is to be selfish?

2018-01-23 02:10:44 UTC  

Mighty fine day out, isn't it, Stalin?

2018-01-23 02:11:13 UTC  

I'm saying that if you only ever think of yourself, you're selfish

2018-01-23 02:11:18 UTC  

By literal definition

2018-01-23 02:11:21 UTC  

if you were to do what you wanted, no one would be able to afford anything, not ot mention there would be no rule in what is a market and what isn't

2018-01-23 02:11:33 UTC  

slavery was a free and open market without regulation

2018-01-23 02:11:36 UTC  

look how that turned out

2018-01-23 02:11:38 UTC  

also, I'd like to point out that Hitler and Stalin were the two biggest advocates of sacrifice in the 20th century.

2018-01-23 02:12:08 UTC  

yes, and Hitler and Stalin were nutters

2018-01-23 02:12:20 UTC  

yes but slavery undermines peoples rights to life, and I already stated earlier that the most important thing is individual rights.

2018-01-23 02:12:22 UTC  

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