it's not a permanent solution

you cant just devolve society back to individuals

Again, it goes back to this. People need to become more independant, and be able to stand on their own two feet.

i agree completely

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I'm pretty sure that was argued for earlier.

which if the human race expects to get anywhere, they will start by starting to cut people off of welfare that have nothing wrong with them

that is why I'm advocating for people to become selfish.

its not selfish to build a career

rationally selfish people do not rely on or exploit others.

yes it is

no it's not

and you knwo it

the rest of society depends on it

I'm going to have to completely disagree with you there. It's a fucked and doomed-to-fail system if everyone only ever thinks of themselves

it's selfish to sit there and take their tax money

for the government maybe

and when I got here, you were telling people that beingforced to be someone's personal bank account was a selfless act

which it's not

The world is already feeling that effect. People just waltz on by homeless people all the time. Little to no empathy.

but its not rational, because eventaully the money will dry up

@Enigmus most walk by because they can't help, because they can barely afford to feed themselves despite working

Keyword

"Most"

look, if you wanted to sum up what I want politically: 1. complete deregulation of markets 2. disolution of the welfare state 3. Massive reduction in taxes and the size of the state in general

The human race will devolve quite a lot if everyone only ever thought of themselves. We'd devolve into a savage and awful race if literally everyone took to their own devices, and were so short-sighted as to think that only their goals and interests mattered, because they're them, not other people.

Just look at the human race today

Loooots of selfishness

Oh lookey, warlords in Africa

Oh hey, Adolf, how do you do?

do you really think to think short term is to be selfish?

Mighty fine day out, isn't it, Stalin?

I'm saying that if you only ever think of yourself, you're selfish

By literal definition

if you were to do what you wanted, no one would be able to afford anything, not ot mention there would be no rule in what is a market and what isn't

slavery was a free and open market without regulation

look how that turned out

also, I'd like to point out that Hitler and Stalin were the two biggest advocates of sacrifice in the 20th century.

yes, and Hitler and Stalin were nutters

yes but slavery undermines peoples rights to life, and I already stated earlier that the most important thing is individual rights.

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