Message from @GingaBomber

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2018-02-03 02:12:33 UTC  

Thing is people argue that leaked docs to wikileaks and whistleblowers are "anonymous sources"

2018-02-03 02:12:48 UTC  

The people doing the leaking I mean

2018-02-03 02:13:14 UTC  

Its more of a matter of how much you trust the publication.

2018-02-03 02:13:44 UTC  

I kinda trust Wikileaks to rely on anonymous whistleblowers, but dont trust CNN for their anonymous sources

2018-02-03 02:16:13 UTC  

Wikileaks doesn't do anonymous sources either, you do have to verify your identity with WL.

2018-02-03 02:19:33 UTC  

Wikileaks has also built up a reputation of not publishing lies

2018-02-03 02:20:13 UTC  

That too

2018-02-03 02:20:14 UTC  

If you can’t prove to them what you have is fact, they won’t publish it

2018-02-03 02:21:36 UTC  

Sure Wikileaks may not publish everything, sure they may be biased and target specific groups with leaks, but you can be certain that anything they do choose to publish is true

2018-02-03 02:22:18 UTC  

There may be more to the story than what’s published through them, but what is published is true.

2018-02-03 02:24:12 UTC  

It’s up to the reader to determine if what’s left out is left out because of Wikileaks’ biases or because Wikileaks didn’t want to make a claim it wasn’t 100% sure of

2018-02-03 02:26:42 UTC  

😠

2018-02-03 03:29:00 UTC  

So its more of our trust of the publisher, not the presence of an anonymous source.

2018-02-03 03:29:23 UTC  

My point is, that we all trust WL to verify them, files and the person doing the leak.

2018-02-03 03:33:47 UTC  

And we all trust cops to cover their own ass at the expense of the people

2018-02-03 03:36:01 UTC  

Honestly trust is the big issue. The mainstream establishment has pissed all over the people’s trust, because they’re so use to the people trusting them blindly because who’s going to prove them wrong.

2018-02-03 03:37:39 UTC  

Well, sometimes you need to rock the boat a little to remind them that it can still sink

2018-02-03 03:38:14 UTC  

People get lazy in peace time. Same applies to people getting lazy with their sources.

2018-02-03 03:39:06 UTC  

But with the advent of television & the internet it’s become very easy to prove them wrong. If a corrupt Deputy Marshal showed up to your home and shot your son back in 1850 who’d ever believe you? It’s your word against a badge, and people had trust in the authorities. Today all you have to do is point a camera at the corrupt Marshal and bam, instant evidence that can be uploaded to the eyes of millions in a matter of seconds

2018-02-03 03:40:12 UTC  

And well, we have the issue with the lie getting published first

2018-02-03 03:40:31 UTC  

Like just publish the lie, and then the correction which will get alot less vieww

2018-02-03 03:42:33 UTC  

For the first time in History the people can legitimately hold the establishment accountable for their lies

2018-02-03 03:43:54 UTC  

Because the crazy inaccuracies and lies from the mainstream media have always existed, they’ve just been impossible to prove.

2018-02-03 03:45:39 UTC  

Not arguing here though. Its just that the people are not using that ability

2018-02-03 03:45:48 UTC  

And the media is taking advantage of that

2018-02-03 03:45:54 UTC  

Sure more people are waking up

2018-02-03 03:46:11 UTC  

Because that farmer who’s been misrepresented & Libeled in a big city paper. Who the fuck is going to have heard his side of things. He had no way of speaking out to as large an audience

2018-02-03 03:46:12 UTC  

Actualy, I mean, people are waking up. So thats good.

2018-02-03 03:46:34 UTC  

And well... We might be seeing a shift here

2018-02-03 03:46:46 UTC  

Shift away from MSM to more independant news outlets

2018-02-03 03:46:49 UTC  

But today that guy can get on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and speak out

2018-02-03 03:47:19 UTC  

And if enough people care his voice will be heard by more than the 20 people he knows personally

2018-02-03 03:47:33 UTC  

He could reach an audience of millions

2018-02-03 03:48:09 UTC  

Thing is, that is the potential, what Id like to see more, is the awareness of that potential.

2018-02-03 03:48:41 UTC  

ANd well... Even then, the person cant rely on the internet alone. FB and Twitter do censor shit.

2018-02-03 03:50:18 UTC  

Who knows how many people got censored like Lindsay Shepherd did 90 years ago, but today, all it takes is a social media post getting into the correct hands and all of a sudden boom

2018-02-03 03:51:58 UTC  

Ah that is true, we still had to depend on well... Commentators commenting on them

2018-02-03 03:53:31 UTC  

But well, future seems brighter than it was a few months ago

2018-02-03 04:00:17 UTC  

According to Chairman Nunes that memo was just part 1

2018-02-03 04:00:25 UTC  

Another one on the State Department is in the works

2018-02-03 04:01:05 UTC  

Oh fuck, electric boogaloo?