Or you could just move to iceland and leave the rest of us alone.

> Speaks against identitarian politics and collective groupthink.
> Proceeds to say that the alt right are all the same and, apparently, school shooters?

Why should I have to leave a country for white people as a white Person?

OK.

lol

I'm not saying that the alt-right are all school shooters. I'm just saying that a school shooter such as Nikolas Cruz could hide amongst them and not really be noticed. Part of the problem when everyone's an edgelord.

How?

What do you mean 'How'?

Were his motivations revealed to be racial in nature or something?

As far as I can tell it is still being investigated.

Oh, no, that's not the thing. But he was a member of the Republic of Florida.

Mkay.

and I mean, given the fact that, even here, the alt-righters that I've spoken to don't generally speak against violence, most view it as an inevitability, just like Ancoms do.

I guess that's why I don't mind the AR so much, because I also think that violence is inevitable no matter the circumstances.

So, I'd rather side with them than the left, I guess.

I mean lefties, not the actual left. lol

As far as I see, whoever openly strikes first is the villain. So long as the justice system acts against them, we're not in too much trouble.

Unless individual justice breaks down wholesale, I don't think violence is an inevitability

Well, I was speaking mostly for Europe, I'm not sure about the US yet.

I should have specified.

But with so much of this talk that it IS inevitable, I believe that's a self-fulfilling prophecy that's going to cause the less... coherent to initate the violence for one side or another.

Really, there's only two realistic possibilities that are going to happen, and one of them isn't even that realistic: either there's a sudden surge of popularity with the alt right to the point where it even becomes a household name and starts gaining traction, which I don't see it happening, but they have been getting a *lot* of traction on YouTube in recent months. They actually manage to gain political power, and then try to enact their ethnostate, resulting in violence.

The more likely scenario is that the alt right continue to be a bunch of memelords and never get taken seriously, and things continue going the way they do now, which will result in many European countries becoming muslim-majority in about half a century or so, resulting in a new dark age for Europe.

The migrants and refugees didn't exactly come into Europe peacefully. Do any of us honestly think they will leave peacefully?

Speaking of which, whether being expelled for being "illegal immigrants", or being expelled for being brown, isn't the effect the same? The forceful relocation of large groups of people sparking violence and destruction?

Jaden, stop a second

Then again, I have absolutely no faith in humanity, especially wherein islam is concerned. lol

Let's clarify something

I do not believe, for a second, that the merkelization of Europe is a move for the greater good.

I never said you did. I'm just saying that it is not likely to stop, that's all. lol

right.

However, even if we put a stop to all immigration and stopped the influx of migrants this second, as in the moment of the conversation, there are still more than enough in their host countries to outbreed their native populations in a few decades if they are not made to return back home.

I actually do believe that identity politics, to a degree, is needed in Europe.

I don't like identitarian politics. Ideally, we shouldn't have them at all, but in this situation I don't know about that anymore.

just out of curiosity, what would identitarian politics solve?

Very little, but a burst of it would nudge the modern course the right direction.

Right now decisions aren't being made to the benefit of the host population

Whether we engage in the idea of white people existing in a group or not, other groups are doing that very thing.

Groups get things done.

It's just that simple.

It would put races on a level playing field

Groups also don't like to give up power