actually no, they are different words that mean different things. socialism does tend to encapsulate communism, basicly meaning communism is a form of socialism, while socialism is a form of economic system where the means of production are controled socialy or democraticly. communism is another beast entirely which takes the idea of socialism, creates a utopia out of the form of socialism which the private sector never even exists, and also lumps other ideas in with it such as abolishment of money and the state. its more accurate to call communist countrys "working towards communism" countrys than accutally presently being "communist" because they never actually represent the goal of the system they put into place. socialism on the other hand has been achieved, both veneseula, nazi germany, and the nordic states are BY SOCIALIST DEFINITIONS actually socialisms now due to the extent of democratic or social control of the means of production

anything other than anarcho capitalism is communism and is bad

enjoy your ban

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thats not how economics works

Except Nordic counties have a higher economic freedom than the us. So how does one have a more socialist society than the US yet have less red tape on the private sector?

socialism isint regulation, its a different form of ownership

So all companies are government owned in Nordic counties?

socialism is the government enforcing communism

socialism is a spectrom in the truist since of the term

its application maybe

socialism is just the ideal of the state replacing the private sector to provide the needs of the people

in a loose sense

socialism isint an ideal of state

its the opposite of an ideal of state, its a system, COMMUNISM is an ideal of the state

i never said ideal of state

I said its the ideal of: "the state replacing the private sector to provide the needs of the people"

these words get thrown around so much that they don't have meaning any more

its not replacing the private sector to provide the needs of the people, its some degree of blending of the private sector and the public sector and the degree of blending is subjective

when words are thrown around by retarded activists ON BOTH SIDES just to make their ideas or counter ideas seem more attractive to you simply get a dictonary

the principles im discribing here can be found in the first paragraph on a wikipedia article

and i said CAN not "use this source only"

it is replacing

A government company has no use if its private sector version is cheaper
If its more expensive to run it in private sector, you replace it with government

the only difference in the "spectrum" is on what you apply it on

And since government tends to be inneffective, its generally cheaper to run private industry

inb4 "you said wikipedia so i dont have to think anymore"

governments arnt ineffective, look at nazi germany 😛

did they succeed in killing ALL jews? 😛

depends on what you mean by ineffective

killing jews was an after thought for germany, theres a reason they did most of it all within the last 3 years of the war while the country itself lasted about 18 years before the end of the war

ineffective as in: Costs more money to run, and doesn't innovate as much

have you even seen these tanks? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte

you mean the one so heavy it got stuck in the mud?

if thats not innovation i dont know waht is

i wouldn't call failed products "innovation"

innovation doesn't include failed products

thats experimentation

well it wasent failed as much as "didint get made"

right, because the King Tiger had its own problems because once you get to a certain size of tank, its weight becomes its worst enemy

Innovation can be defined simply as a "new idea, device or method"

that said, the russians have always been pretty innovative. and get things done with half the tech level

yes, thats the wikipedia 'buzzword' version of it

Just because you can slap a buzzword on something doesn't matter

I've just innovated the toilet! lets have it catapult the poop out a window

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/innovation

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buzzword