Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-03-21 21:59:25 UTC  

or janitor wages

2018-03-21 21:59:28 UTC  

now if you so choose

2018-03-21 21:59:31 UTC  

and yet very few do

2018-03-21 21:59:49 UTC  

so given the choice, it doesn't happen, so you can't force it with acceptable results

2018-03-21 22:00:14 UTC  

of course there are those that do

2018-03-21 22:00:26 UTC  

but not enough for it to be anything more than a rounding error.. lets be honest

2018-03-21 22:00:42 UTC  

@I AM ERROR you don't understand communism then

Its not about everyone getting "the same"

Its about everyone working their hardest on whatever job they're doing, and not expecting anything extra compared to others, the end result will be everyone gets "the same" but its by choice, not to make things fair

Thats why it wont work, because humans don't work for that amount of payoff

2018-03-21 22:00:45 UTC  

most drs donate their time to doctors without borders or something similar.. but they still make hefty wages at home

2018-03-21 22:01:20 UTC  

I shouldn't say most doctors, some altruistic ones, I mean

2018-03-21 22:01:28 UTC  

but its a rounding error out of the millions of doctors out there

2018-03-21 22:01:41 UTC  

The implication there being that all work is equally as valuable.

2018-03-21 22:01:45 UTC  

Which simply isn't the case.

2018-03-21 22:01:51 UTC  

correct

2018-03-21 22:02:01 UTC  

but that's what communism says

2018-03-21 22:02:14 UTC  

but its the same with Anarcho Capitalism

It wont work because a group of people can just pull a Negan, and basically kill whoever is succesful for their wealth, live off of that, and move on

Or establish a large community/country and group their resourcese to destroy opposing factions

2018-03-21 22:02:16 UTC  

all work is equal, all labor is equal, all labor is equally fruitful

2018-03-21 22:02:34 UTC  

its about everyone having what they -need- (which makes them the same in the end)

2018-03-21 22:02:58 UTC  

What if people aren't content just surviving, though?

2018-03-21 22:03:10 UTC  

but people have different needs

2018-03-21 22:03:14 UTC  

so even that's not the same

2018-03-21 22:03:17 UTC  

yes, but for it to actually work as a functional society,

You don't want people going "you make more, give it to other people"

You want "I dont want more, give it to those in need"

2018-03-21 22:03:18 UTC  

some people need creative outlets

2018-03-21 22:03:36 UTC  

(its years since i read that stuff, sounded better when i was... 10 or so...)

2018-03-21 22:03:48 UTC  

some are introverts, extroverts

2018-03-21 22:04:28 UTC  

yeah... and some need food.

2018-03-21 22:04:45 UTC  

thats where communism fails the hardest.

2018-03-21 22:04:56 UTC  

the real problem is that we cant all have an easy couchy job

2018-03-21 22:05:25 UTC  

we can once we reach 100% automation

2018-03-21 22:05:30 UTC  

even then

2018-03-21 22:05:38 UTC  

people will want more than others

2018-03-21 22:05:57 UTC  

sure... let them...

2018-03-21 22:06:15 UTC  

SJW is based on that "you have a succesful life, you have privilege"

2018-03-21 22:07:09 UTC  

that is not the wording i would use

2018-03-21 22:07:46 UTC  

cuz with 100% automation, you can still have the best gamers, succesful and unsuccesfful relationships

2018-03-21 22:07:52 UTC  

better looks

2018-03-21 22:08:03 UTC  

to people will want that more too

2018-03-21 22:08:27 UTC  

with 100% automation all work is optional

2018-03-21 22:08:43 UTC  

Did anyone see that Uber ran over a pedestrian with their automated car?

2018-03-21 22:08:57 UTC  

i read about it

2018-03-21 22:09:23 UTC  

drove too fast and didnt see her apparently

2018-03-21 22:09:38 UTC  

robots are rising up