if youre slightly right wing you might have to entertain some socialistic ideas 😃

i don't think being exactly in the middle is necessarily a good thing... to me its more important to know where you stand, why you are there and what the arguments against your positions are.

if you arent in the centre, it means you are closing your mind off to other ideas

I think I get what Falko's saying. I consider myself centrist, but that doesn't mean I'm neutral on every issue out there. You can understand where someone is coming from without agreeing with them.

total center?

^

or just center as left and right is concerned?

not really... it just means that there are more positions on which you agree with "the left"... not even the "extreme left", just "the left"

You cant be perfect centre. We're all inclined in some way biologically and psychologically

I'm starting to entertain the notion that maybe true neutral isn't really something someone *needs* to strive for and it's more of an emphasis on actually being able to listen and understand other people's opinions. ..I say this as someone that's usually center/center on most days.

Drifts based on mood, you know how it is.

Im just saying, it gives you an indication of your own bias .. and something to watch out for ... and maybe open your mind to opposing ideas on the compass

sure, i can agree with that

Agreed

Though having solid facts would help a ton.

Same thing, in a broader sense when it comes to personality imo

I kinda see it as a big target... and youre kinda aiming for the bullseye... but you still get lots of points for getting near the centre 😃

For example, I still have a problem differentiating socialism and communism because there doesn't seem to be a solid definition anymore.

Soviet russia was communist. Venuzuela is socialist. I'm not seeing much of a difference in how they're functioning or acting right now.

Makes it really hard to accept 'socialist' ideas.

The left dont like borders, so their ideologies kinda blend together cuz of that lol

I saw a video on this recently.. someone explaining that communism has actually "never been tried" ... that old chestnut... but they were basically saying that all these countries were actually just socialist

Which, in all honesty, pushes me even further away from the idea of socialism.

it is not important if one likes borders or not, they are necessary.

enlightened alt centrists unite

Wakanda forever!

`pls no`

when the left says "kill all kittens", and the right says "no dont kill any kittens", the obvious correct answer is to kill half of the kittens!

Hear hear.

gotta balance the universe somehow

"true" communism is kinda impossible as it require everyone to think the same thing without descent, socialism is meant to be a transition to that but its all a pipe dream

a regular centrist would compare both possitions and pic the one that suits him more, but the enlightened alt centrists do everything half

everyone who says that "real communism/socialismm has not been tried" is an self absorbed idiot. seriously... do they REALLY think that somehow THEY know better than any leader that tried it?

From what I've heard, the only time "true communism" works is when it's a very small, tight knit community wherein everyone *trusts* one another.

Moment the trust is gone and there's uncertainty things go out the window. This is ignoring human nature as well but, yeah.

I do find interesting how social values can shift through "the left" and "the right" .. like religious conservativism used to be "the right", but now its on the left.. and free speech was on "the left" but now its on "the right"

you can make anything work with a small group of people

Honestly? No. I've yet to see a community where it really goes that deep and nobody has to worry about trust issues. At least, if we're talking more than a handful of people at best.

@Giant Energy Penis very true. It require no outside interference as well. Which is why Marx said it needed to be a world wide revolution all at once for it to be successful

@wacka I've also been considering that the old standards of "left vs right" really are just that. Old and antiquated.

Might need a new system to properly define things.