Message from @Krack

Discord ID: 449072762104053760


2018-05-24 04:50:48 UTC  

At what point do we draw the line between someone being an individual in power

2018-05-24 04:50:52 UTC  

and someone being the power they hold?

2018-05-24 04:51:07 UTC  

That was my question

2018-05-24 04:51:18 UTC  

I have NEVER considered the president of the United States to be the government.

2018-05-24 04:51:23 UTC  

Was wondering if they made it clear where it stops in the ruling

2018-05-24 04:51:30 UTC  

I have considered them to be the custodian of it.

2018-05-24 04:52:26 UTC  

This judgement is reaching.

2018-05-24 04:52:55 UTC  

If the president uses his privilege to broadcast a message over the television

2018-05-24 04:53:10 UTC  

Private citizens are NOT entitled to broadcast their own replies.

2018-05-24 04:53:17 UTC  

Still, what can the judge do? Force him to unblock them?

2018-05-24 04:53:17 UTC  

okay, so it would be fine for the president, as a private citizen, to use their own money to hire private security to silence certain people? I mean, its not the government then. He is not, necessarily, using any government power, only the power he wields as a private citizen right?

2018-05-24 04:53:23 UTC  

where do we draw the line?

2018-05-24 04:53:41 UTC  

when does his actions as a private citizen then suddenly cross the line?

2018-05-24 04:53:41 UTC  

Define silence?

2018-05-24 04:53:52 UTC  

Because when you put it that way, that sounds like hiring a hitman.

2018-05-24 04:53:56 UTC  

which is illegal anyway.

2018-05-24 04:54:07 UTC  

no, prevent from speaking

2018-05-24 04:54:20 UTC  

now allow them into a place "open to the public"

2018-05-24 04:54:39 UTC  

lets say some other place that is designated a public forum

2018-05-24 04:54:40 UTC  

That's a poor point.

2018-05-24 04:54:49 UTC  

Like forcfully holding them?

2018-05-24 04:54:50 UTC  

If Trump has a state of the union address

2018-05-24 04:54:56 UTC  

He actually DOES have a security force

2018-05-24 04:55:07 UTC  

that stops people from coming up and using the podium for a rebuttal.

2018-05-24 04:55:19 UTC  

law and the constitution dictates that the government cannot prevent people from going to an open public form

2018-05-24 04:55:29 UTC  

HOWEVER, it is absolutely legal for them to voice and publish their rebuttal

2018-05-24 04:55:35 UTC  

THAT is protected by the First Amendment.

2018-05-24 04:55:38 UTC  

Speaking of

2018-05-24 04:55:46 UTC  

Musk is doing a poll on twitter

2018-05-24 04:55:53 UTC  

You guys got twitter?

2018-05-24 04:56:34 UTC  

Only way to see Trump's tweets in context so yeah.

2018-05-24 04:56:46 UTC  

Twitter blocked me from following anybody 4 days ago

2018-05-24 04:56:48 UTC  

fml

2018-05-24 04:56:59 UTC  

Go vote on musks poll I guess

2018-05-24 04:57:18 UTC  

They tried to force me to give them my phone# when I signed up

2018-05-24 04:57:29 UTC  

Oh I had to give my phone twice

2018-05-24 04:57:39 UTC  

and after that they made my twitter unusable for no reason

2018-05-24 04:57:44 UTC  

probably because I follow conservatives

2018-05-24 04:57:48 UTC  

It makes absolutely zero sense that a particular twitter account can be an open public forum

2018-05-24 04:58:04 UTC  

that is courted off by a private forum

2018-05-24 04:58:17 UTC  

That is to say