Message from @Krack

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2018-05-24 04:46:02 UTC  

its not really much of anything, tbh.

2018-05-24 04:47:02 UTC  

I mean, the first amendment is the right to speak, not the right to be heard wherever you choose.

2018-05-24 04:47:08 UTC  

Dosent help that some of these so called journalists are making a living of peddling this shite. They tried this before with trump interfering with their livelyhood since they get all their traffic from there.

2018-05-24 04:47:15 UTC  

You have a link to teh ruling on hand?

2018-05-24 04:47:26 UTC  

yes, but can you reply to tweets of people who have you blocked?

2018-05-24 04:47:30 UTC  

That is not the presidential twitter page.

2018-05-24 04:47:45 UTC  

This is Donald Trump's own twitter page.

2018-05-24 04:47:55 UTC  

i mean, it is. At what point while being POTUS, is trump not POTUS?

2018-05-24 04:48:29 UTC  

yes, its not the official white house presidential twitter. but it is the presidents twitter

2018-05-24 04:48:49 UTC  

It's Donald Trump's twitter.

2018-05-24 04:48:57 UTC  

Trump just happens to be the president.

2018-05-24 04:49:15 UTC  

He does not use that twitter to make state addresses.

2018-05-24 04:49:17 UTC  

yes, so while he is president, he counts as the government

2018-05-24 04:49:24 UTC  

He's got several other established medium for that.

2018-05-24 04:50:06 UTC  

So, does a Judge count as the government as well?

2018-05-24 04:50:34 UTC  

Congressman? Senator? Mayor? Sheriff? Dog Catcher?

2018-05-24 04:50:48 UTC  

At what point do we draw the line between someone being an individual in power

2018-05-24 04:50:52 UTC  

and someone being the power they hold?

2018-05-24 04:51:07 UTC  

That was my question

2018-05-24 04:51:18 UTC  

I have NEVER considered the president of the United States to be the government.

2018-05-24 04:51:23 UTC  

Was wondering if they made it clear where it stops in the ruling

2018-05-24 04:51:30 UTC  

I have considered them to be the custodian of it.

2018-05-24 04:52:26 UTC  

This judgement is reaching.

2018-05-24 04:52:55 UTC  

If the president uses his privilege to broadcast a message over the television

2018-05-24 04:53:10 UTC  

Private citizens are NOT entitled to broadcast their own replies.

2018-05-24 04:53:17 UTC  

Still, what can the judge do? Force him to unblock them?

2018-05-24 04:53:17 UTC  

okay, so it would be fine for the president, as a private citizen, to use their own money to hire private security to silence certain people? I mean, its not the government then. He is not, necessarily, using any government power, only the power he wields as a private citizen right?

2018-05-24 04:53:23 UTC  

where do we draw the line?

2018-05-24 04:53:41 UTC  

when does his actions as a private citizen then suddenly cross the line?

2018-05-24 04:53:41 UTC  

Define silence?

2018-05-24 04:53:52 UTC  

Because when you put it that way, that sounds like hiring a hitman.

2018-05-24 04:53:56 UTC  

which is illegal anyway.

2018-05-24 04:54:07 UTC  

no, prevent from speaking

2018-05-24 04:54:20 UTC  

now allow them into a place "open to the public"

2018-05-24 04:54:39 UTC  

lets say some other place that is designated a public forum

2018-05-24 04:54:40 UTC  

That's a poor point.

2018-05-24 04:54:49 UTC  

Like forcfully holding them?

2018-05-24 04:54:50 UTC  

If Trump has a state of the union address

2018-05-24 04:54:56 UTC  

He actually DOES have a security force

2018-05-24 04:55:07 UTC  

that stops people from coming up and using the podium for a rebuttal.

2018-05-24 04:55:19 UTC  

law and the constitution dictates that the government cannot prevent people from going to an open public form