Message from @Tool

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2019-08-07 22:19:02 UTC  

How dumb can this guy be

2019-08-07 22:19:03 UTC  

I think labour requirements can be met with the native population.

2019-08-07 22:19:16 UTC  

Birth rates are falling

2019-08-07 22:19:20 UTC  

And will continue to

2019-08-07 22:19:21 UTC  

"dictatorial power" and "forcible suppression of opposition" pop out as noticeable negatives

2019-08-07 22:19:35 UTC  

Is that inherent to the ideology though?

2019-08-07 22:19:45 UTC  

Or a by-product

2019-08-07 22:19:54 UTC  

Promore the idea of family to the populace, have some sort of reward for families who have more than 2 kids.

2019-08-07 22:20:01 UTC  

Tyranny and anti-democracy is directly tied to Fascism, yes

2019-08-07 22:20:16 UTC  

I wouldn't consider it simply a "by-product"

2019-08-07 22:20:28 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby Dictatorial power isn't always bad. I make the cases of Ataturk and Ayub Khan who greatly improved their nations. They were both dictators.

2019-08-07 22:20:38 UTC  

A necessary evil for a greater good.

2019-08-07 22:20:38 UTC  

Boys

2019-08-07 22:20:47 UTC  

I've turned off notifications for this channel twice

2019-08-07 22:20:51 UTC  

Help

2019-08-07 22:20:52 UTC  

Ree

2019-08-07 22:21:00 UTC  

It broke

2019-08-07 22:21:02 UTC  

Wdym?

2019-08-07 22:21:22 UTC  

I've set the notifications to mentions only

2019-08-07 22:21:22 UTC  

I also don't think democracy is a necessity.

2019-08-07 22:21:31 UTC  

But that's not what's happening

2019-08-07 22:21:44 UTC  

@Tool Hm. Change it to every message then back to mentions only.

2019-08-07 22:21:50 UTC  

A nationalist dictatorship is bad. Short term (like during war) there can be benefits, but for the most part it's bad. Picking out some cases where perhaps it turned out "ok" isn't a very good argument

2019-08-07 22:22:29 UTC  

Civil liberty will always come first for me

2019-08-07 22:22:29 UTC  

GG @Tool, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-08-07 22:22:30 UTC  

George Orwell wrote in 1944 that "the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless...almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'".

2019-08-07 22:22:35 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby It didn't turn out 'ok'. The decade or so that those two were in power, they're both regarded as the best leaders for their two nations in history.

2019-08-07 22:23:03 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby By the way. Under Ayub Khan, Pakistan gave loans to Germany in 1966.

2019-08-07 22:23:04 UTC  

Democracy holds people accountable

2019-08-07 22:23:07 UTC  

Or is supposed to

2019-08-07 22:23:28 UTC  

Lol and there are successful Monarchies with widely-loved rulers as well

2019-08-07 22:23:32 UTC  

That's called LUCK

2019-08-07 22:23:38 UTC  

He made their nuclear technology and developed tight relationships with America and Britain.

2019-08-07 22:23:40 UTC  

Not luck.

2019-08-07 22:23:47 UTC  

They both knew what to do for their nation.

2019-08-07 22:23:51 UTC  

You don't base your government on getting lucky to have a "good" dictator

2019-08-07 22:23:56 UTC  

None of you are American

2019-08-07 22:24:01 UTC  

I prefer the term benevolent dictator.

2019-08-07 22:24:06 UTC  

I'm American

2019-08-07 22:24:06 UTC  

Is it that easy to tell?

2019-08-07 22:24:15 UTC  

Also Russian, dual citizenship