Message from @tony1
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What's your stance?
I dislike it in most cases and feel only under very limited circumstances that it should be done.
Ok I'm pro-life too
Let's pick another topic
Socialism or capitalism?
Capitalism.
Me too
Pro-lgbtq or anti-lgbtq?
I actually don't have an opinion. I feel people can do what they want with there lives aslong as it does not effect or hurt others.
@maxtrainboy Ok what about trans men entering women's bathrooms?
I dislike that.
yeah
But was just wondering when u thought life begins
Bathrooms are bathrooms weather they cut or add use the proper one with your original sex.
or when was a human
dont have full time for debate
I just feel they should not terminate the pregnancy unless it would cause harm to the babies mother and I mean life or death stuff. @vzy
GG @maxtrainboy, you just advanced to level 1!
@maxtrainboy I think the line should be based on the actual genitals of the person. Lady genitals, women's bathroom, women's prison, etc. Men's genitals, men's bathroom, men's prison, etc. Doesn't matter how you were born, just what's between your legs now.
@maxtrainboy but do you believe a zygote is a person or cells ?
I feel zygote cause it is rapidly developing and nerves can be developed at any stage really.
I disagree but understand your point @tony1
@vzy There is s huge difference between a fertilized egg, and an unfertilized egg
@maxtrainboy K debate me then
Ultimately I believe in the rational objective method of sentience
the cells can not think or even respond to pain until around 24 weeks iirc would have to check again, but I personally see those as basic requirements of being a "human"
There is also the viability belief as well, in that before that timeframe it is 100% impossible for the fetus to survive outside of the womb
Medically or not, combining those two is why I'm personally pro choice before those time frames
If you are going to vegetables it is false equivalence
@vzy No I'm just asking a simple question, if someone cannot think, are they no longer human?
The vegetable, could at least previously think or has the capacity for thought, or even just sentience
As I said though sentience and ability to think are just basic characteristics of being a human
If they are in front of my eyes living and breathing etc, can not objectively say they arent human even if they cant think for themselves
As I said the fetus at that point, has no ability to exist outside of mother's womb