Message from @Cobra Commander

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2019-11-22 15:09:57 UTC  

Coverage on politics in general is pretty horrid, so i'm not exactly surprised

2019-11-22 15:10:14 UTC  

And the ignorance of the American Collective is pretty piss-poor as well

2019-11-22 15:10:42 UTC  

Trump is largely a symptom of the people. And the corruption that's been allowed to build and stay ignored for decades

2019-11-22 15:12:25 UTC  

I need to amend one thing. The ignorance of America is at an all-time high during these modern times.

2019-11-22 15:14:24 UTC  

Sort of, the election of Trump was more of the people giving a giant middle finger to the Democratic Establishment. Which is likely why the democrats are trying so badly to get him removed from office at all costs and why the republicans are rallying around him

2019-11-22 15:15:09 UTC  

There is a divide among the Republican voters for Trump, but the establishment at DC will pretty much bend over backwards for him.

2019-11-22 15:15:10 UTC  

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2019-11-22 15:16:25 UTC  

And if the GOP can control the message well enough, the fall in line and vote for Trump anyway. That's something the Republicans have usually been good about, controlling the narrative

2019-11-22 15:16:52 UTC  

There is a divide there but it isn't much, nothing comparable to the rift between moderate democrats and the progressive democrats and radical leftists

2019-11-22 15:16:53 UTC  

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2019-11-22 15:17:43 UTC  

What do you mean by the Republicans "controlling the narrative?" I don't quite follow.

2019-11-22 15:19:14 UTC  

I'm not saying the don't necessarily, I'm simply curious.

2019-11-22 15:19:40 UTC  

Fox News, AM radio, staying on message as if every Republican pundit, congressman, conservative Corporation, has a talking points memo beamed directly into their heads.

2019-11-22 15:20:01 UTC  

They tend to stay United on the messaging, which makes it's more believable to their voting public.

2019-11-22 15:21:27 UTC  

Well that's something certainly not exclusive to the Republicans, the Democrats do the same thing.

2019-11-22 15:21:44 UTC  

More infighting among the Democrats though

2019-11-22 15:21:55 UTC  

And I'm just referring to leadership.

2019-11-22 15:22:05 UTC  

Well, what counts for leadership at any rate

2019-11-22 15:22:10 UTC  

Sure but there are messages also repeated there across the board

2019-11-22 15:22:37 UTC  

Ok well now I'm a bit confused, what exactly do you consider as constituting the leadership per se?

2019-11-22 15:23:19 UTC  

Are you referring to the members of the party itself or just general figureheads across the political wing?

2019-11-22 15:23:49 UTC  

Both. Those in the media who resent the messaging they want the voters to hear, and the congressman and senators.

2019-11-22 15:24:26 UTC  

Oh so media types along with politicians, I see.

2019-11-22 15:24:30 UTC  

Of course the corporate donors own establishment for both parties

2019-11-22 15:24:43 UTC  

Trump is both useful and dangerous to The Establishment at the same time.

2019-11-22 15:24:54 UTC  

Bernie represents everything anti-establishment, so in some ways he's a bigger threat

2019-11-22 15:24:59 UTC  

Idk, I agree but I find the narrative problem to be far more egregious on the left these days.

2019-11-22 15:25:29 UTC  

Not really, he's kind of bought into the whole PC stuff wholesale this time around. I feel like this might actually improve his chances in this election as opposed to 2016

2019-11-22 15:25:49 UTC  

He isn't exactly the outlier like he was in the last election

2019-11-22 15:26:14 UTC  

In 2016 he did Paul as soundly pimp slapping Trump with the wind. The DNC didn't want any of that though. Sabotage Tim in the media, during debates, even went as far as to feed questions in advance to Hillary.

2019-11-22 15:26:40 UTC  

The Republicans had an easy time controlling the narrative through all that. They are struggling and showing blatantly they're lying during the impeachment hearings.

2019-11-22 15:26:58 UTC  

I think it will be more of what the Democratic party does once to hearings are over, cuz they know the Senate won't allow impeachment trials to go forward.

2019-11-22 15:29:40 UTC  

The Senate most likely won't move forward with conviction, but honestly that's probably more on the grounds of the evidence in favor of Trump committing illegal activity being flimsy at best rather than from political bias. I mean you can argue that some of the republicans are lying, I don't know enough about that, but good god this is just embarrassing.

2019-11-22 15:30:12 UTC  

At the DNC sabotages himself again, they will hand the wind to Trump.

2019-11-22 15:30:15 UTC  

Yeah the coverage in news tends to be nicer and meaner to certain people

2019-11-22 15:34:03 UTC  

Yep, because the Ukraine scandal appears as of right now to be nothing more than Trump being retarded and mismanaging the situation as normal and the democrats looking desperate, they aren't going to be able to stop Trump from running again in 2020. Which is pretty fucking sad that they can't beat *this guy,* I mean for god's sake they're practically handing him the fucking win. They would have had a better chance at not pursing this impeachment at all and beating him in the polls, he now has a 50% approval rating because of this.

2019-11-22 15:34:35 UTC  

Meanwhile, someone like mayor Pete is what the establishment is looking for.

2019-11-22 15:34:57 UTC  

Even his sort of political base, the status of the economy, could very well turn against him in the future, and yet he's being handed the win.

2019-11-22 15:35:06 UTC  

Because of this trade war shit

2019-11-22 15:35:31 UTC  

This is why I hate politics

2019-11-22 15:37:00 UTC  

And yet I promised myself to pay attention about a decade ago. Sometimes I wonder if im better off ignorant of politics