Message from @Othman
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what's the point of this then?
@quinnn He's saying that islam is a religion of peace or something (I'm not sure what he is trying to say)
But if you scroll up you can look at the verses I got from the Quran
"On the eve of the opening, Abu Sufyan adopted Islam." @Deleted User
What about it?
why do you think Aby Sufyan, a famous leader of the Quraish tribe and an expert in military tactics would convert to Islam?
He went into Mohammed's tent and talked to him, and converted to Islam
What is the relevance of Sufyan
He stilled militarily conquered Mecca
Doesn't matter what Sufyan did
at the time, Mohammed and his people were camping outside of Mecca, they haven't entered Mecca yet and haven't made any threats
Oh yes
With a large military force
@Deleted User How can you conquer a land that was yours in the first place?
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Mohammed was born in Mecca, so were his people (Al Muhajereen)
mate you should read the entire story first
when Mohammed gained a following simply by preaching to people the message of god, not by forcing them
he came back to Mecca with a force of 10,000 men, which was a huge number at the time.
Yes, he was kicked out for preaching heresy.
they could have easily killed every single non-believer in Mecca but the prophet Mohammed said this when he entered Mecca:
"Even he Who enters the house of Abu Sufyan will be safe, He who lays down arms will be safe, He who locks his door will be safe"
And even then, if you wanted to argue that Muhmmad was just a peaceful man that wanted to re-take mecca for his people
Then sure
That *would* be a valid response
However, as you and everyone else knows
It didn't end there
He forcibly converted the rest of the middle east
no he did not
Yes he did
Through conquest
The middle east was converted
to this day there are a lot of christians and jews who live in the middle east
So?
yeah the middle east converted to Islam by choice
that's not conquering dude
No it didn't
If you didn't follow islam you were persecuted
conquer
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verb
overcome and take control of (a place or people) by military force.
"he conquered Cyprus"
Even today, if you don't follow islam you are persecuted