Message from @zutt

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2018-06-02 23:19:52 UTC  

I'd personally have the Commons elected proportionally and keep the districts, be it with Single Transferrable Vote, for the Lords

2018-06-02 23:20:36 UTC  

House of Lords is basically the equivalent of the US senate.

2018-06-02 23:20:37 UTC  

You need someone in the position of head of state.

2018-06-02 23:20:49 UTC  

Also it has become apparent that you can buy lordship with party donations

2018-06-02 23:21:01 UTC  

That's what monarchies are good for. Raised from birth to be a head of state.

2018-06-02 23:21:01 UTC  

Ryecast no it isnt

2018-06-02 23:21:24 UTC  

I mean from a political structure stance

2018-06-02 23:21:37 UTC  

Yeah kind off

2018-06-02 23:21:38 UTC  

the whole two houses thing

2018-06-02 23:21:49 UTC  

frankly, the Senate needs tweaking too.

2018-06-02 23:21:51 UTC  

Term limits!

2018-06-02 23:22:14 UTC  

I don't agree on temr limits if you are elected.

2018-06-02 23:22:21 UTC  

Term limits, maybe. Age limits, defnitely. Enforced average national wage payment, absolutely.

2018-06-02 23:23:13 UTC  

Its complicated with wages but i would be for more transparency

2018-06-02 23:23:15 UTC  

I don't agree with that either. You want the ppl that are making desition for your country to be looked after. Less likely to take back handers.

2018-06-02 23:23:37 UTC  

Complete lack of privacy in their communications, also yes.

2018-06-02 23:23:42 UTC  

Same for their bank accounts.

2018-06-02 23:23:57 UTC  

British politics need much more transparency imo

2018-06-02 23:24:00 UTC  

their pay is fuck all in a big ship.

2018-06-02 23:24:06 UTC  

Being a member of government should not be a reward, it should be something people don't want to become for any reason other than serving.

2018-06-02 23:24:17 UTC  

Especialy when public money are involved

2018-06-02 23:24:22 UTC  

The core problem with term limits is that it creates a political class

2018-06-02 23:24:56 UTC  

Incumbency doesn't just happen because someone's doing a good job

2018-06-02 23:25:07 UTC  

I'd also institute Single Transferrable Vote, if people want to keep the districts.

2018-06-02 23:25:53 UTC  

It happens in large part due to apathy.

2018-06-02 23:26:55 UTC  

And the lack of viable third parties is due to the fact that the first-past-the-post voting system used actively works against the growth of said third parties.

2018-06-02 23:27:05 UTC  

Mmhmm

2018-06-02 23:27:36 UTC  

The way it works, not voting for a republican or democrat is essentially a vote for the other party

2018-06-02 23:27:37 UTC  

Yep

2018-06-02 23:27:44 UTC  

Exactly.

2018-06-02 23:27:44 UTC  

And actually swapping parties is two votes for that party.

2018-06-02 23:28:15 UTC  

Two party system sucks

2018-06-02 23:28:16 UTC  

The only way a third party can be viable is if they manage to, on their very first go, manage to win.

2018-06-02 23:28:41 UTC  

it *can* happen

2018-06-02 23:28:49 UTC  

but yeah

2018-06-02 23:29:00 UTC  

Yeah it kind of did happen in gb

2018-06-02 23:29:05 UTC  

@Somi to prevent a government position being seen as a reward maybe we should stick 'em in a barracks and feed them only cafeteria food.

2018-06-02 23:29:10 UTC  

With liberal Democrats

2018-06-02 23:29:15 UTC  

At one point

2018-06-02 23:29:22 UTC  

And in that case, they'd simply replace either of the two original parties in the long term.

2018-06-02 23:30:02 UTC  

I ahte this line of arguement that a vote for a third is vote for the other. How do you think the UK got their Brexit ref? It was coz of the growth in votes for UKIP. Everyone that voted for them knew they would never win but the message was sent. Politics is a long game.