Message from @Grenade123

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2018-06-04 15:53:32 UTC  

haha

2018-06-04 15:55:17 UTC  

wow the salt in this thread

2018-06-04 15:55:35 UTC  

poeople actually think that others should be compelled to do what they want

2018-06-04 15:55:48 UTC  

i believe that form of democracy is called "Mob rule"

2018-06-04 16:04:29 UTC  

On the one hand, freedom of contract is an absolute right... On the other hand, it's utterly incomprehensible (to me) as to why you, as a business owner, would reject the opportunity to make money over something as small as this...

2018-06-04 16:11:02 UTC  

@Dr.Wol i wonder if those people realize that direct democracy would be racist....as the "mob" in the US is very white.

2018-06-04 16:11:44 UTC  

@Somi because there might be a market for it

2018-06-04 16:12:01 UTC  

i.e. those who oppose same sex marriage

2018-06-04 16:17:41 UTC  

Personally i doubt they think SJWs aren't the majority

2018-06-04 16:18:20 UTC  

doesn't matter what you think. THEY think they are in the minority and that racists are somehow all over

2018-06-04 16:18:58 UTC  

but if they think that, they'd be against a democracy, cuz they'd get fucked MORE that way, as they can't even outvote

So maybe they're just retards 😛

2018-06-04 16:19:30 UTC  

i think they don't think very far beyond the first step in any process

2018-06-04 16:19:37 UTC  

oh absolutely

2018-06-04 16:19:44 UTC  

in fact, that is most everyone, period

2018-06-04 16:20:04 UTC  

its like that case of

Ban guns for normal people, only let police & military have guns

The government is fascist and oppressive

2018-06-04 16:20:23 UTC  

racist, communists, politicians, they all are very near sighted

2018-06-04 16:20:52 UTC  

Although on this issue, i can at least understand the problem they have. Or at least a few of them. Its not so much that 1 random bakery decided not to bake a cake, its that this precedent now will allow the hypothetical situation of lets say a random black family living in a southern city that is basically entirely racist. These people now are basically forced to move because they cannot even buy food for themselves where they live now. Only now expanded to like the whole south, or the whole USA.

2018-06-04 16:21:44 UTC  

Obviously, this has a few problems, like why would you want to live in a place where everyone hates your to start with? Do you really think black people won't be able to make their own alternatives? Do you really think the majority of people are that hateful or dislike money that much?

2018-06-04 16:22:00 UTC  

but i get that, for them, its not a situation where they could just go to the government and make go away.

2018-06-04 16:22:09 UTC  

so you can't tell them it won't happen

2018-06-04 16:22:33 UTC  

because anything without a government law preventing it can happen, regardless of its probability.

2018-06-04 16:25:35 UTC  

are you a leftist?

2018-06-04 16:30:06 UTC  

For me its a case of,

I don't like the idea of a proprietar discriminating like that,

But then again, If you know said person is scum, you can then just not go there in the first place, not like theres only 1 baker in a whole city,
On top of that, I rather know that people hate me, because then I can avoid them,

What do you think is going to happen to that cake if said person is FORCED to make it? People can be very nasty and spiteful.
The cake batter can be spat in,
Be made to taste off,

or god forbid, if a person is like that woman who made bread using the yeast from her vaginal yeast infection 😵
Imagine if someone did that out of spite

2018-06-04 16:31:58 UTC  

If someone discriminates like that, let them, they'll lose business, give them the noose to hang themselves with,
Same with "nazis", don't silence them, let them preach to the world their idiot views, so people will be put off and distance themselves

2018-06-04 16:32:24 UTC  

Capital is a direct form of democracy.

2018-06-04 16:33:44 UTC  

Anyone trying to regulate the flow of money is regulating a person's ability to choose what they support.

2018-06-04 16:34:56 UTC  

The leftists who are up in arms over the baker not baking the cake are the same that are up in arms over where the NRA spends money.

2018-06-04 16:35:24 UTC  

You can't have your cake and eat it too, so to speak.

2018-06-04 16:36:17 UTC  

thats cuz you see it differently than them

2018-06-04 16:36:21 UTC  

Either monetary flow is an endorsement or it isn't.

2018-06-04 16:36:56 UTC  

"Your rights end where my feelings begin" and all that you know?

2018-06-04 16:37:40 UTC  

@LotheronPrime i'd be leftists if i said i agreed with it, despite its many holes.

2018-06-04 16:37:53 UTC  

If they have the option to not buy from that baker, why is that baker obligated?

2018-06-04 16:38:46 UTC  

Feelings don't make it into this equation at all for me

2018-06-04 16:38:53 UTC  

cuz its not about the option, its about that the baker discriminates who it sells to

and Discrimination against a non CIS-white is one of SJW's deadly sins

2018-06-04 16:38:59 UTC  

It's principle.

2018-06-04 16:39:12 UTC  

@RyeNorth its not exactly a direct form of democracy as not everyone gets the same number of votes.

2018-06-04 16:39:42 UTC  

You earn your influence based on value added to the community

2018-06-04 16:40:10 UTC  

You lose influence as penalty for crimes.

2018-06-04 16:40:23 UTC  

yes, but it takes a community to then undo just one of your vote choices should you change stances.

2018-06-04 16:41:11 UTC  

its direct democracy until you have been voted all the power