Message from @Ivanfr

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2018-06-04 19:19:18 UTC  

the only reason would be just the benefits for having kids. and it would then be argued that they would never have a kid to qualify for them anyway

2018-06-04 19:19:32 UTC  

Because without a new generation populating the country the country weakens

2018-06-04 19:19:42 UTC  

exactly

2018-06-04 19:19:47 UTC  

However

2018-06-04 19:19:51 UTC  

Homosexual couples don’t produce children

2018-06-04 19:20:06 UTC  

and I assume they cant raise them very well either

2018-06-04 19:20:09 UTC  

even if they dopt

2018-06-04 19:20:11 UTC  

adopt*

2018-06-04 19:20:17 UTC  

They actually can

2018-06-04 19:20:38 UTC  

Homosexual couples are just as good at being parents as straight couples

2018-06-04 19:20:44 UTC  

I doubt that very much

2018-06-04 19:21:09 UTC  

technically homosexual couples can produce children. its just one parent would have to adopt the child, as it would most likely be mother/father by a surrogate

2018-06-04 19:21:24 UTC  

out side normal adoption

2018-06-04 19:21:33 UTC  

The study that deemed them worse was horseshit because it compared gay parents to intact straight parents which is inherently flawed when gay marriage isn’t legal thus gay households aren’t as stable

2018-06-04 19:21:39 UTC  

It depends on if they're trying to make political statements with their children.

2018-06-04 19:22:02 UTC  

why would gay couples be less stable because they cant marry?

2018-06-04 19:22:03 UTC  

Gay parents did just as well as unmarried straight households

2018-06-04 19:22:12 UTC  

that doesnt make sense to me

2018-06-04 19:22:30 UTC  

Because without the legal contract you are inherently less stable

2018-06-04 19:22:33 UTC  

if they are a good couple that can raise good children what does it matter if the govt lets them marry or not

2018-06-04 19:22:55 UTC  

I see your point but I dont think that is the reason why they perform worse at raising children

2018-06-04 19:23:02 UTC  

If two people are married they have incentive to stay together. Separating has costs.

2018-06-04 19:23:09 UTC  

Marriage is essentially a proclamation that two lives are in essence one.

2018-06-04 19:23:20 UTC  

It's not a new concept

2018-06-04 19:23:26 UTC  

the children are more reason to stay together that marriage is

2018-06-04 19:23:32 UTC  

u cant kill ur kids but u can divorce

2018-06-04 19:23:32 UTC  

And it's not just a Christian concept

2018-06-04 19:23:42 UTC  

Unmarried people do not have these costs, a single bad fight can result in the end of the relationship as there is no major cost preventing one party from just exiting

2018-06-04 19:24:00 UTC  

if they do that then they are inmature

2018-06-04 19:24:05 UTC  

and shouldnt have a kid in the first place

2018-06-04 19:24:29 UTC  

a bad marriage is worse than a good divorce

2018-06-04 19:24:32 UTC  

for the children

2018-06-04 19:24:41 UTC  

marriage made more sense when "until death do us part" meant living until you were 50, and your kid was grown up at like 15.

2018-06-04 19:25:05 UTC  

since 3 kids with the same person would fill up most of that 50 years time frame.

2018-06-04 19:25:09 UTC  

Should children be taken from broken households and put into stewardship by that same logic?

2018-06-04 19:25:10 UTC  

“A bad marriage” which again, gays couldn’t have until a few years ago

2018-06-04 19:25:14 UTC  

tbh I consider homosexuality a mental illness

2018-06-04 19:25:20 UTC  

They couldn’t have the stability of that marriage

2018-06-04 19:26:33 UTC  

Re: same-sex couples producing kids - Didn't they find a way for lesbians to have biological offspring (with each other, that is) through some kind of off-brand cloning tech a while back? It's probably wicked expensive but I'm pretty sure I remember reading about it

2018-06-04 19:26:55 UTC  

oh pls no

2018-06-04 19:27:00 UTC  

It's evil.