Message from @Grenade123

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2018-06-11 20:38:47 UTC  

just like pipes, just like roads

2018-06-11 20:39:37 UTC  

yeah, now imagine if the local government decided only 2 car companies got to drive on your local road. and for you to drive your own care it would be 20k now, and 1.8k a month

2018-06-11 20:39:44 UTC  

If you have an already established community (say a subdivision in the US), you have a limited area that you can dig those cables (typically the stretch of lawn/grass between the sidewalk and street. And if you have ever increasing numbers of companiies wanting to come in and dig to install additional cable lines then sooner or later those homeowners are going to get fed up with that

2018-06-11 20:40:14 UTC  

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2018-06-11 20:40:55 UTC  

Eventiually the next installer is going to "accidentally" cut another company's cable while they are in the process of installing their owb

2018-06-11 20:41:06 UTC  

@Chijohnaok as my previous point, imagine how many cables could fit in something like a city storm drain. Those big ones that people can easily stand in

2018-06-11 20:41:11 UTC  

that probably already happens

2018-06-11 20:41:15 UTC  

that is what i meant by "have enough companies"

2018-06-11 20:41:21 UTC  

but it would be more frequent

2018-06-11 20:41:32 UTC  

but the alternative is only like there be 1 or 2?

2018-06-11 20:41:42 UTC  

you want CABLES in stormdrains?

2018-06-11 20:41:49 UTC  

you ancaps really are crazy

2018-06-11 20:41:52 UTC  

*facepalm*

2018-06-11 20:42:24 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend more like something the size of a storm drain, but a whole different system.

2018-06-11 20:42:24 UTC  

Well, in the commuiity that I live ( a subdivision suburb of Tampa) those storm drains are prbablt about 18 inches in circumference. Now I grew up in Chicago and I realize that some underground utility tunnels there are man sized but that is not the rule everywhere

2018-06-11 20:42:42 UTC  

well youd need a second stormdrain then

2018-06-11 20:43:03 UTC  

we are not even allowed to have that option

2018-06-11 20:43:28 UTC  

all im saying is this seems to be an infastructural problem

2018-06-11 20:43:38 UTC  

Arch...those storm drains in Chicago can sometimes be man sized in height so the utlilities are run through a smaller pipe within the larger underground storm drain tunnels

2018-06-11 20:43:43 UTC  

all of this is just possibilities but are barred by local governments leaving your only option to basically by your space FROM a huge ISP.

2018-06-11 20:43:52 UTC  

this is how they get a monopoly

2018-06-11 20:44:09 UTC  

all of these options are expensive

2018-06-11 20:44:18 UTC  

they are not even options

2018-06-11 20:44:20 UTC  

thats my point

2018-06-11 20:44:36 UTC  

because they are expesive and public nusances

2018-06-11 20:44:53 UTC  

how are ISPs not already a public nuisance?

2018-06-11 20:45:15 UTC  

name a single ISP who's customer service is steller

2018-06-11 20:45:22 UTC  

none, because they don't need to be

2018-06-11 20:45:24 UTC  

they are, your talking about making them bigger nuisances without any payoff

2018-06-11 20:46:03 UTC  

A competing company can't even worry about expense if they can't even explore the option due to regulation

2018-06-11 20:46:17 UTC  

you install a new large storm-drain like pipe line once, then get a lot of space to had lots of new lines for a while, any that is a nuisance?

2018-06-11 20:46:53 UTC  

these pipes which could be used to put power lines in so that you don't lose power every time a tree falls or a drunk driver takes out a light pole

2018-06-11 20:46:56 UTC  

yeah customer service may increase by 10% now that theres 3 competing isps and not just 2 but then you also have a 30% increase in infastructural problems which will effect the overall service of all 3 that rely on that infastructure

2018-06-11 20:47:40 UTC  

you realize that stormdrain either falls on the ips or the taxpayer right?

2018-06-11 20:48:17 UTC  

idk, how much more does it cost to maintain a concrete pipe in the ground over time verse the always falling over telephone poles?

2018-06-11 20:48:39 UTC  

how much does it cost to built it?

2018-06-11 20:49:05 UTC  

were talking about building a 5-10 foot tall wall underground that runs beside every road in the united states

2018-06-11 20:49:32 UTC  

basicly probably costs as much as the road does

2018-06-11 20:49:38 UTC  

That is never going to happen---cost prohibitive

2018-06-11 20:50:12 UTC  

over who knows how many years. idk, if i have the money, i seems like it might be worth while building it in a city or two and then letting other isps rent space in it for cheaper than the current cost to get on a pole.

2018-06-11 20:50:25 UTC  

maintenance would start to pay for itself