there is mainstream as in msm, in which case yes. mainstream in terms of the majority of the population of California? well at least in the coastal cities which contain most of California's population? most likely. Can a politician win holding that view? yes because they gerrymander to shit, hence some of the grievances of the new California movement.

anything you attributed to California really only applies to its like 6 major cities, and its extremely wealthy residence.

My concern is that this could cross the line into the realm of sedition, at which point Trump is put in the dilemma of having to either do nothing, and appear weak to his base, or having to come down on state officials with federal charges, which would immediately spawn a much larger backlash of seditious activity, or outright insurrection.

also, there is a significant portion of illegal immigrants in cali, that the dem recolonize as legitimate voters

Even now it's perfectly acceptable for people to shut down federal facilities with protests, and democrat politicians are planning on visiting the protestors and perhaps even public speaking in support of their actions. If one of these politicians was arrested for some sort of seditious conspiracy charge with respect to undermining border enforcement, then shit would hit the fan.

idk how accurate this is, given the source, but it would be the goal of them http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/04/2-illegal-aliens-appointed-to-public-office-in-huntington-park/

Jesus Christ California is broken on so many levels.

yes

ICE could just come in and pick them up. Can't be difficult to find illegals that are in public office.

Idk it looks to me like that comical picture of a man sitting on a branch and sawing it with vigour

wouldnt that be hillarious

Ice raiding city hall

which is why the 3 state idea even got to ballot, and new california is going forward (i think) as we speak

It's not new cali.

It's a different version.

New Cali was just two states.

which is why i said "and new california is going forward as we speak", becuase it hasn't gotten to a ballot yet

Now the way it might be is two of the states will still be dem and one would be a swing state.

Instead of one state being dem and the other a swing state.

any swing state is big win for Reps if California is concerned

i like, or liked, new California better. although their recent map from a week or two ago basically showed all county's have a council so no idea what that means

Did the citizenship question ever get added to the census?

you mean re-added?

it used to be on the census

That would greatly effect electoral college numbers.

Cali probably doesn't have as much weight behind it if all the illegals are removed from the count.

i love the propaganda around that one "it might make illegals less likely to participate in the census"

As if it matters what illegals think.

its just like "....AND?! This is a census of CITIZENS, numb-nuts "

also, all records of a census are closed for like 70 years or something, so you can't find out who any of those people are

just the meta-data

Well the id laws in america and britain baffle me as well

You cant realy make fair election without them

But ppl somehow created this idea how they are incredibly racist

yeah, idk how current day voter id laws would be racist

back in the day they were because various minorities where literally barred by law from getting them

Soft bigotry of low expectations.

but like now? fuck if the law is just show up with enough info to go look up that you are a citizen, then just hand them a card and be done, how is that racist?

Because they think the laws are to prevent minorities from voting.

thats some paranoia

There's a good video about this. One sec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs