Message from @GingaBomber

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2018-06-23 02:21:45 UTC  

Socialism will have even less chances of becoming a reality at that point ,because there wouldn't be a "worker's class".

2018-06-23 02:23:33 UTC  

That would hold if people were all identical. But the vast majority of people just do not have a high enough IQ to be software engineers, geneticists, etc.

2018-06-23 02:23:59 UTC  

Sure, and they would be the mechanics, and the soldiers

2018-06-23 02:23:59 UTC  

So there will be a growing number of people who have no use. No ability to trade their labor for adequate wage.

2018-06-23 02:24:19 UTC  

or similar jobs that cannot efficiently be replaced by technology

2018-06-23 02:25:51 UTC  

As an example, Google Duplex will easily eliminate a million jobs in the US once it is a mature technology.

2018-06-23 02:26:21 UTC  

Self-driving trucks will eliminate a similar amount.

2018-06-23 02:26:53 UTC  

There really won't be the same number of jobs created by these eliminations.

2018-06-23 02:27:29 UTC  

I men youd end up with the situation with gas pump attendant laws

2018-06-23 02:27:35 UTC  

Isn't it possible that by the time we will have acheived automation, there would be other kinds of expansion?

2018-06-23 02:27:47 UTC  

Like if you automate the majority of call centers and receptionists, that doesn't logically create a new sector to serve those computers.

2018-06-23 02:27:58 UTC  

Space, Extraterrestrial colonialism, etc?

2018-06-23 02:28:14 UTC  

And if the trucks drive themselves, that doesn't necessarily mean that there's a million more mechanic jobs.

2018-06-23 02:28:36 UTC  

More like the jobs of a thousand can be handled by ten.

2018-06-23 02:28:47 UTC  

Is it possible that at some point, we will need a genocide?

2018-06-23 02:28:49 UTC  

I think you have to accept that this is a fundamentally different revolution. We're not replacing human muscle power, we're replacing human intellect.

2018-06-23 02:29:19 UTC  

Its kinda happening in developed natios.

2018-06-23 02:29:20 UTC  

There will be new opportunities though.

2018-06-23 02:29:26 UTC  

People having less kids

2018-06-23 02:29:30 UTC  

Because at some point, the only thing valuable from humans will be Art.

2018-06-23 02:29:45 UTC  

When a generation ago people had like five, now people have one or two.

2018-06-23 02:29:50 UTC  

What you'll find is that things that were not economically feasible before due to labor costs will become feasible once human labor is much less valuable.

2018-06-23 02:30:01 UTC  

Like servants.

2018-06-23 02:30:02 UTC  

That's possible

2018-06-23 02:30:43 UTC  

Nowadays wealthy people have their servants in the form of illegal immigrants because that permits them to end-run around minimum wage laws.

2018-06-23 02:30:51 UTC  

There's also the fact that education costs may drop too, letting more get into design and development fields

2018-06-23 02:31:33 UTC  

But eventually such low-skilled labor will have such little economic worth that everyone will be competing for it. Everyone who can't do something that requires a high IQ at least.

2018-06-23 02:32:14 UTC  

And there are jobs where people want humans for the sake of humans, like in healthcare or education.

2018-06-23 02:32:39 UTC  

Nobody wants to have their arse wiped by a cold metal claw when they're in their 80s in a home somewhere.

2018-06-23 02:33:02 UTC  

Not everyone will be smart enough to innovate.

2018-06-23 02:33:12 UTC  

Thats not something that can be thaught.

2018-06-23 02:33:12 UTC  

^

2018-06-23 02:33:27 UTC  

That is the key fact that so many people refuse to accept.

2018-06-23 02:33:33 UTC  

Not everyone needs to innovate, most people in the fields are the people who make plans possible

2018-06-23 02:33:58 UTC  

For example, I can design a car, but I need other people to help me bring it to reality

2018-06-23 02:34:13 UTC  

Metal sintering.

2018-06-23 02:34:34 UTC  

Here's something interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59JlEdu4bU

2018-06-23 02:44:10 UTC  

Well lets say that theres some things that are impossible to innovate under current circumstances.

2018-06-23 02:44:25 UTC  

Many many things.

2018-06-23 02:51:21 UTC  

I meant automate not innovate

2018-06-23 02:51:24 UTC  

Derp