Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-07-05 12:05:04 UTC  

Thats worrisome

2018-07-05 12:06:07 UTC  

I am certain you guys in netherlands could organize campaign to stop them tho

2018-07-05 12:06:28 UTC  

You have internet and social media what is stopping you ?

2018-07-05 12:06:48 UTC  

Also i bet some political parties would bandwagon on this

2018-07-05 12:06:51 UTC  

which country is trying to take away referendum?

2018-07-05 12:07:02 UTC  

Dutch

2018-07-05 12:07:06 UTC  

Apparently

2018-07-05 12:07:14 UTC  

ah

2018-07-05 12:07:16 UTC  

I dont know any details

2018-07-05 12:07:19 UTC  

the neverlands

2018-07-05 12:08:02 UTC  

the government not respecting your referendums is something you have in common with bongland so you got that going for ya

2018-07-05 12:11:13 UTC  

bongland?

2018-07-05 12:13:21 UTC  

Well in bongland they did state it in the refferendum law

2018-07-05 12:13:34 UTC  

That its just "advisory"

2018-07-05 12:13:48 UTC  

So no plebs could fuck them up lol

2018-07-05 12:14:11 UTC  

and well, the reason for them doing it is that our current government is a bunch fo suck-ups,

The Ukraine referendum was the deciding vote on whether or not Europe would support the Ukraine government,
So in order to be pals with germany and such, they went quiet after the referendum said "No", and then secretly just agreed anyway

2018-07-05 12:15:03 UTC  

I am sure it was worth it lol

2018-07-05 12:15:32 UTC  

and they then discovered (like the Brexit vote) people don't care much for using our tax money to help other countries, so they vote no on such things, which ofc reflects badly on the Dutch in the EU,

So they want to abolish the referendum,

So the people called a referendum to cancel the abolishment, and the Prime minister himself said they would just ignore the referendum about it

2018-07-05 12:15:40 UTC  

Telling Germany no is much more popular with your electorate these days

2018-07-05 12:15:49 UTC  

yeah

2018-07-05 12:15:50 UTC  

a complied list of referendums in european countrys that were either never acted on or actually countered would be interest

2018-07-05 12:16:05 UTC  

modern obviously

2018-07-05 12:16:33 UTC  

Well there are ways to make refferendum inefective

2018-07-05 12:16:51 UTC  

50 % voter clause

2018-07-05 12:16:55 UTC  

And such

2018-07-05 12:17:13 UTC  

the clause is 30% here, and it was over it

2018-07-05 12:17:26 UTC  

they had no right to ignore it

2018-07-05 12:17:39 UTC  

I dont know your laws

2018-07-05 12:17:49 UTC  

But sure you sound angry about it

2018-07-05 12:19:14 UTC  

ive been hearing talk that the brexit might be found invalid in uk court

2018-07-05 12:19:31 UTC  

that will be interesting

2018-07-05 12:20:04 UTC  

well i'm opposed to the current dutch government,

Because its both incompetent, and corrupt

2018-07-05 12:20:44 UTC  

Brexit is heating up

2018-07-05 12:20:49 UTC  

apparently the leave campaign mismanaged government funding (as any referendum campaign gets funding) by basicly using a loophole to get unregulated amount out of the budget

2018-07-05 12:21:01 UTC  

I am quite interested whats going to happen too

2018-07-05 12:21:42 UTC  

its quite posible everyone in leave who knew about the fraud will be prosicuded

2018-07-05 12:21:51 UTC  

Honestly both campaigns probably cheated

2018-07-05 12:22:03 UTC  

yeah but its not leave thats in power

2018-07-05 12:22:08 UTC  

ironicly

2018-07-05 12:22:41 UTC  

Well the real problem is that leave sold brexit on impossible promises

2018-07-05 12:22:49 UTC  

And now they cant deliver