Message from @zutt

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2018-07-05 11:37:50 UTC  

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2018-07-05 11:38:05 UTC  

Article 13 partly btfo

2018-07-05 11:42:57 UTC  

Now they are back to reworking it so it will probably come back in changed form

2018-07-05 11:56:02 UTC  

they're prolly gonna try and not talk about it a lot, so people will forget and then silently pass it, like they do a lot in Europe

2018-07-05 11:58:08 UTC  

Nope

2018-07-05 11:58:44 UTC  

The pirate party will never be silent about this type of legislation its their reason for existence

2018-07-05 11:59:33 UTC  

As for silently pasing thats bulshit they are quite open about legislation they are passing in parliament

2018-07-05 11:59:38 UTC  

won't be enough,

The dutch parliament has done it twice already, and the pirate party here didn't do enough to warn the people

2018-07-05 11:59:50 UTC  

Its press who sleeps and does not inform

2018-07-05 12:00:03 UTC  

i have no reason to believe those snakes of the EU will be any more honest

2018-07-05 12:00:22 UTC  

I think there are some honest ppl in there

2018-07-05 12:00:29 UTC  

But also lots of snakes

2018-07-05 12:00:31 UTC  

yes, but the majority are slimes

2018-07-05 12:00:51 UTC  

and the media is in their pocket,

So the honest people are outnumbered and can't report as wide

2018-07-05 12:01:06 UTC  

As for dutch i have no clue what is going on in there

2018-07-05 12:02:16 UTC  

our government is trying to take away our right to a referendum under the reason: "Referendums give people the idea their vote doesn't matter"

because they've twice just flat out ignored referendum outcomes

2018-07-05 12:03:04 UTC  

Once for financing the corrupt government in Ukraine during that crimea incident
and once for holding a referendum to keep the referendum

2018-07-05 12:03:23 UTC  

and in both cases the vote said "Don't do it"

And they are just flatout ignoring it

2018-07-05 12:03:41 UTC  

and tell the state funded media to be silent about it

2018-07-05 12:05:04 UTC  

Thats worrisome

2018-07-05 12:06:07 UTC  

I am certain you guys in netherlands could organize campaign to stop them tho

2018-07-05 12:06:28 UTC  

You have internet and social media what is stopping you ?

2018-07-05 12:06:48 UTC  

Also i bet some political parties would bandwagon on this

2018-07-05 12:06:51 UTC  

which country is trying to take away referendum?

2018-07-05 12:07:02 UTC  

Dutch

2018-07-05 12:07:06 UTC  

Apparently

2018-07-05 12:07:14 UTC  

ah

2018-07-05 12:07:16 UTC  

I dont know any details

2018-07-05 12:07:19 UTC  

the neverlands

2018-07-05 12:08:02 UTC  

the government not respecting your referendums is something you have in common with bongland so you got that going for ya

2018-07-05 12:11:13 UTC  

bongland?

2018-07-05 12:13:21 UTC  

Well in bongland they did state it in the refferendum law

2018-07-05 12:13:34 UTC  

That its just "advisory"

2018-07-05 12:13:48 UTC  

So no plebs could fuck them up lol

2018-07-05 12:14:11 UTC  

and well, the reason for them doing it is that our current government is a bunch fo suck-ups,

The Ukraine referendum was the deciding vote on whether or not Europe would support the Ukraine government,
So in order to be pals with germany and such, they went quiet after the referendum said "No", and then secretly just agreed anyway

2018-07-05 12:15:03 UTC  

I am sure it was worth it lol

2018-07-05 12:15:32 UTC  

and they then discovered (like the Brexit vote) people don't care much for using our tax money to help other countries, so they vote no on such things, which ofc reflects badly on the Dutch in the EU,

So they want to abolish the referendum,

So the people called a referendum to cancel the abolishment, and the Prime minister himself said they would just ignore the referendum about it

2018-07-05 12:15:40 UTC  

Telling Germany no is much more popular with your electorate these days

2018-07-05 12:15:49 UTC  

yeah

2018-07-05 12:15:50 UTC  

a complied list of referendums in european countrys that were either never acted on or actually countered would be interest

2018-07-05 12:16:05 UTC  

modern obviously