Message from @Windwalkr

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2018-07-13 00:42:56 UTC  

All of these typos are due to Google speech to text sorry for all these weird word errors

2018-07-13 00:43:48 UTC  

specially now when illigal immigration is a problem

2018-07-13 00:44:09 UTC  

asians aren't even counted as a minority anymore even though they are vastly outnumbered by black people

2018-07-13 00:45:38 UTC  

Well yeah because Asians are considered white

2018-07-13 00:46:19 UTC  

blacks say high scool doesn't teach them spanish, but a lot of employers require spanish language to get a job... actually you don't have to speak english, better if your only language is spanish

2018-07-13 00:46:23 UTC  

Only feel times that I experienced racism was actually in a liberal City like Santa Cruz

2018-07-13 00:48:43 UTC  

high school doesn't teach any language EXCEPT Spanish, and a second language is a requirement to graduate

2018-07-13 00:49:06 UTC  

i was super upsetti, my high school dropped literally every second language class except for spanish the year before i went there

2018-07-13 00:49:25 UTC  

and i ended up taking a spanish class from a french teacher

2018-07-13 00:49:55 UTC  

that happened to me to

2018-07-13 00:50:23 UTC  

though i didint need it to graduate i needed it to go into college without taking a second language in collage

2018-07-13 00:50:53 UTC  

it's a requirement to graduate HS here

2018-07-13 00:51:13 UTC  

and i retained no knowledge and took a different second language in college

2018-07-13 00:51:22 UTC  

so it was a complete waste of a class

2018-07-13 00:53:32 UTC  

Anyway I think this attack on the erderly mexican is one off many to come if reported...

2018-07-13 00:56:06 UTC  

That sucks, my high school offered Spanish, German, and French, and it was a shitty public school in TX where Spanish is obviously the most useful for over 99% of students

2018-07-13 00:58:14 UTC  

mine had spanish, french, german, and chinese the year before i went there

2018-07-13 03:18:38 UTC  

This guy is creepy

2018-07-13 05:44:55 UTC  

Interesting, Looks like Dateline Australia was using some of Tim's Footage of the Proud boys initiation.

2018-07-13 05:55:41 UTC  

I don't think someone is essentially a racist because they are a race realist. Nor is it 'wrong' to use country of origin as race.
Example, near all African (including African Americans) maybe different because of nurturing or nature, it is a grouping that works for the purpose of grouping, for the purpose of either medical/education/whatever. So the 'race' is a valid organiser in general.
I agree with Zach Wood, that the IQ test is only a test of certain aspects, but for the purpose of this point lets say it's a be all and end all intelligence test, so the outcome of whites being smarter than blacks is only racist if you think intelligence is the be all and end all, it's equally as valid to say blacks are superior because they can run faster than whites, or that Tibet people are superior because they can use oxygen more efficiently. So the actual point of differences isn't racist unless someone thinks one aspect is better than the other.
And be it culture or chromosome, race is a good way to identify whatever it is.

2018-07-13 06:00:46 UTC  

I usually use the analogy of dog species, pick any species you want, that species in general will all have a similar medical condition, and similar behaviour. You can teach any species to do anything, but if you want a sniffer dog then a kelpie will struggle, and need different training than a Labrador.
Something that can be overcome because differences are recognised, not taboo

2018-07-13 06:03:41 UTC  

I don't think so either, but I also don't think society at large is anywhere near ready to discuss the subject. Both from those who aren't racist and will think of it as racist, and from those who actually are racist and will feel validated by it.

2018-07-13 06:07:15 UTC  

Maybe, but I think it will invalidate racists. "Okay you're smarter, but they will tear your arms clean off", racists can currently choose what they want to hear and assume superiority across the board, when we all have a superior factor each

2018-07-13 06:07:52 UTC  

Really I feel we have acadamia to blame for having swept it all under the rug and not allowing it to be discussed in a responsible fashion.

2018-07-13 06:09:13 UTC  

No different to sexism IMO, girls and boys will always be different, it has been proven over and over again that school/work/life can cater to either, and life works better for everyone when each sex is doing what it does best

2018-07-13 06:10:52 UTC  

Also I don't think that enough people really grokk how statistics work to not make stupid assumptions based on the data. If you say "Men are on average taller than women" someone else will say "Oh yeah, well Venus Williams is 6'1" and you're only 5'10""

2018-07-13 06:11:45 UTC  

Are people that dumb? I'm sure they just want to argue for the point or arguing

2018-07-13 06:12:21 UTC  

If you need to say 'hashtag not all' then you are talking to an idiot

2018-07-13 06:12:38 UTC  

I think it's a combination of the two in most cases. Cognitive dissonance between "men and woman are equal in every way" and the observable fact

2018-07-13 06:14:29 UTC  

Not saying that all of this discussion should be entirely verboten, just that we're in a shitty position, and now of all times is probably the wrong time to discuss it. But hey, maybe despite inspiring some crazies to fling shit it'll shift the overton window enough to have useful discussion

2018-07-13 06:17:15 UTC  

I think it will never be the right time until people do start talking about it. It will always have that awkward point whenever we start the ball rolling, and by the time the ball is rolling it will be time.

And dickheads will always exist, but lets not let them stop the future of humanity

2018-07-13 06:18:33 UTC  

I pretty much agree, but racial relations feel like the worst they've been since the Rodney King riots, and they've only been seeming to go downhill

2018-07-13 06:18:52 UTC  

People only need to move 1 inch at a time to move 1 mile

2018-07-13 06:19:54 UTC  

But going half a mile back to move forward mile later when your back to a cliff is a poor proposition.

2018-07-13 06:21:05 UTC  

idk I'm just some dude on the internet. I hope things work out however it happens, and if not then at least I've got plenty of popcorn in the pantry

2018-07-13 06:21:12 UTC  

Race relations is bad because only the alt right is talking about race, of course blacks don't like what they are hearing. But if pro black sides talked about it, I'm sure blacks would like to hear why they are better in some ways

2018-07-13 06:23:10 UTC  

Man, I really wish only the alt right was talking about race.

2018-07-13 06:23:32 UTC  

As in race realism...

2018-07-13 06:24:30 UTC  

haha I know