Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-08-13 10:29:23 UTC  

Want that gone.

2018-08-13 10:29:32 UTC  

With that gone, the state now dictates the people

2018-08-13 10:30:32 UTC  

Religion can be formulated as:
- The community is your fellow church-goers
- The purpose is to serve god
- The structure is the life lessons from the bible

A commie state seeks to replace it

-The community is the state and its people
-The purpose is serving the state
-The structure is the Law of the state

2018-08-13 10:31:40 UTC  

Which is why I disagree with Lucian on 7. there are nations built on relligion out there, hell in the US the politicians swear on the bible, while that alone may be only symbolic in nature, christianity is still a very strong influence in America

2018-08-13 10:32:01 UTC  

And why commies tend to be athiest.

2018-08-13 10:32:10 UTC  

I think thats a symptom

2018-08-13 10:32:40 UTC  

Religion is needed for people who can't survive on their own mind

2018-08-13 10:32:51 UTC  

Religion wasn't really removed, They just replaced God

2018-08-13 10:33:12 UTC  

I dont feel like its right to call relligious people dependent.

2018-08-13 10:33:31 UTC  

It does give people a purpose to move on

2018-08-13 10:33:45 UTC  

well they rely on their faith to give them strength

2018-08-13 10:34:04 UTC  

not their own strength

2018-08-13 10:35:34 UTC  

Still, id say thats more indicitive of its importance in a society.

2018-08-13 10:35:45 UTC  

well exactly

2018-08-13 10:36:04 UTC  

But thats because people aren't taught properly that its their own self-determination that makes things happen

2018-08-13 10:36:14 UTC  

A person or a populace who is only loyal to their own values is a scary prospect to a prospecitve tyrant

2018-08-13 10:36:34 UTC  

on the contrary, a smart tyrant would do just that

2018-08-13 10:37:02 UTC  

If you know what people value personally, you can manipulate them with that

2018-08-13 10:37:27 UTC  

the issue with Tyrants, is that they tell people what they should want,

And thats not what people want so they don't listen/follow, so you have to oppress them

2018-08-13 10:37:33 UTC  

Like the UK and muslims?

2018-08-13 10:37:50 UTC  

well thats the example of a bad tyrant

2018-08-13 10:38:00 UTC  

Or one that played its hand too early.

2018-08-13 10:38:07 UTC  

They tell people "Ooh its not that bad"

People say "Oh yes it is"

And they go to jail for it

2018-08-13 10:38:28 UTC  

Trump would be an example of a smart tyrant

2018-08-13 10:38:39 UTC  

Well heres the thing, its a two pronged approach, they replace the people with another demographic with similar values, and arrest the people who object.

2018-08-13 10:39:07 UTC  

He gives his followers what they want, which is what they voted for, he doesn't tell them "You want X"

He tells them "I want you to become rich and powerful again so you can do what you want"
And people follow because thats what Americans want

2018-08-13 10:39:13 UTC  

Power, Money and Freedom

2018-08-13 10:39:26 UTC  

Whether or not they actually follow through is another question

2018-08-13 10:39:36 UTC  

But thats only the first step

2018-08-13 10:39:46 UTC  

Theres also people tired of Obama.

2018-08-13 10:39:53 UTC  

yeah

2018-08-13 10:40:03 UTC  

And people who trust him. Trumps been around for a long time

2018-08-13 10:40:19 UTC  

but Trump kicks around (tyrannises) other nations

And in doing so, he gives his voters what they want, and they keep him in power

2018-08-13 10:40:48 UTC  

and you are right in a way, the replacement tactic

2018-08-13 10:41:04 UTC  

but the issue is, that the UK for example, thinks it can actually control those savages they import to "replace"

2018-08-13 10:41:50 UTC  

and they'll soon wake to find that the people they import spit on them, and the people they oppressed hate them

So they'll be left with nothing

2018-08-13 10:41:58 UTC  

Its like in the netherlands here

2018-08-13 10:42:06 UTC  

our Labor party imported many turkish people

2018-08-13 10:42:19 UTC  

and a few years ago, they formed their own party instead

2018-08-13 10:42:38 UTC  

so the Labor party lost 1/3rd of their voters (the immigrants) who formed their own party, which absolutely rejected the Labor Party

2018-08-13 10:42:45 UTC  

Too be honest, I think they know they cant