Message from @shinsoo

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2018-10-17 22:39:15 UTC  

Appeal to my logic instead.

2018-10-17 22:39:22 UTC  

this isn't a negotiation lol
neither of us are politicians, we don't need to make a deal or compromise

2018-10-17 22:39:44 UTC  

i was trying to reason with you, and you just fall back on emotional points that you don't care

2018-10-17 22:40:11 UTC  

No, you have not reasoned at all. You have provided no valid reason as to why these foreigners should be permitted into the US.

2018-10-17 22:40:33 UTC  

You have appealed to emotion by saying they are vulnerable.

2018-10-17 22:40:46 UTC  

I do not care if they are vulnerable. That is not a valid reason for letting them into the US.

2018-10-17 22:41:28 UTC  

If they are vulnerable and have legitimate reason for seeking asylum they can do so in Guatemala in accordance with international law.

2018-10-17 22:42:16 UTC  

because i think that the peaceful pursuit of happiness and liberty should be granted until there's a good reason to restrict it
you're being driven by bizarre emotional ideas about taxes and borders, to encourage the use of force to stop them from doing harmless travelling

2018-10-17 22:42:53 UTC  

you "don't care", yet insist on preventing them from doing stuff that isn't any of your business

2018-10-17 22:43:50 UTC  

Peaceful pursuit of happiness is not a valid reason to let them into the US. There is no law saying "you must let unhappy people in". Not wanting my tax dollars to go to law-breaking non-citizens is not illogical or emotional. It is rational.

2018-10-17 22:44:09 UTC  

if we disagree on the premise that peaceful pursuit of those things is important, then fair enough, i concede that my reasoning is futile

2018-10-17 22:44:25 UTC  

Countries are not charities. We have no obligation to spend our wealth on foreigners.

2018-10-17 22:44:37 UTC  

We have no obligation to let foreigners in.

2018-10-17 22:44:40 UTC  

you're spending your wealth keeping people out for no good reason

2018-10-17 22:44:52 UTC  

The good reason is that they are not American.

2018-10-17 22:44:57 UTC  

you assume the default is to keep them out

2018-10-17 22:45:16 UTC  

and that the choice is whether to actively let them in or not

2018-10-17 22:45:23 UTC  

when it's the reverse

2018-10-17 22:46:06 UTC  

If we did not keep them out billions of third-worlders would plunder and destroy this nation.

2018-10-17 22:46:24 UTC  

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2018-10-17 22:46:28 UTC  

y tho

2018-10-17 22:47:26 UTC  

what do they have to gain from that? and billions?
if your government didn't waste its resources preventing people from traveling and working, they could just come over and contribute

2018-10-17 22:47:31 UTC  

no harm done

2018-10-17 22:47:41 UTC  

Tell that to Germany or Sweden.

2018-10-17 22:47:53 UTC  

i'm *in* Germany lol

2018-10-17 22:48:23 UTC  

That explains a lot.

2018-10-17 22:48:25 UTC  

Stay there.

2018-10-17 22:48:31 UTC  

<:bigbrain:419633628264398851>

2018-10-17 22:48:32 UTC  

Enjoy your third-worlders.

2018-10-17 22:48:45 UTC  

kk, nice talk

2018-10-17 23:20:51 UTC  

...I rather have Trump's actions with the press than Obama's

2018-10-17 23:28:49 UTC  

ezpz fix, adopt canadas merit based system for america and accept skilled immigrants, not any third world reject thats going to be a burden on the us

2018-10-17 23:33:11 UTC  

really doing their best to keep daesh alive

2018-10-17 23:34:38 UTC  

Two US-led coalition’s F-15 fighter jets have mistakenly targeted Kurdish units amid their offensive on the remaining forces of Islamic State

2018-10-17 23:35:09 UTC  

can the US just fuck off of the middle east

2018-10-17 23:35:16 UTC  

they already had their fun

2018-10-17 23:52:39 UTC  

Yeah this article sounds extremely bias.

2018-10-17 23:55:16 UTC  

It's RT, ofc it will be.

2018-10-17 23:55:33 UTC  

At least it's not coming from the side thats killing their friends.