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Until 1945 the Philippines was sovereign US territory. Yet people born there were not citizens of the US
Uh, people born in Guam are citizens
And Puerto Rico
And yet they arent a state
They are a territory
Rome wasn't a federation
Rome had a separate class of citizen and subject
Roman empire still ruled over everything in their empire. They had troops stationed, collected taxes and stuff from Israel. They had their own governor appointed to rule over Israel
And such dont have certain rights
Note that Paul was both a Jew and a citizen
But this has gone horribly side bar
There was still more middle east east of Israel
And even if they owned everything there would be reason to plot against rome
Seeing as they had almost literally Just been conquered before jesus was born
And then had wars after too
So I would say even Jews had a reason to plot against rome
Conquered 67 years before. That's not necessarily "just"
The Jews, most of them, did everything in their power to stop Christianity from spreading
They actually murdered "Christians"
And warred 66 years after
They still were openly hostile
Uh no
Unrest is not open war
So... Jews conspired to overthrow Rome... by killing a guy, involving hundreds if not thousands of other random people... then afterwards, they try to actively stop their own conspiracy by killing it's followers?
Is that what you're claiming?
So which is your argument today? Christianity is just a really elaborate scheme invented by some Parthians or Chinese to overthrow Rome? Or it was invented by some nice guy to bring world peace? Or invented by a small group of people to control the world?
Your proof not mine
But I guess Jewish Roman Wars does sound only like unrest...
I haven't argued anything other than Christianity might not be the TRUE religion and gave theorys on how it could be possible
You are treating them like I believe them
For whatever reason
None of which happened in the lifetime of Jesus
The hostility was still there
In fact it was a generation later
There would be subversive elements everywhere to aid a conspiracy
The possibility was there
If you want to construct a better theory be my guest.
Fact is Christianity was treated as a subversive element and hunted and persecuted mercilessly and there were no shortage of people who would like to see that happen.
Which means it's far less likely to have been a world peace movement or an attempt to overthrow the Romans