Message from @Ehzek
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They actually murdered "Christians"
And warred 66 years after
And never became independent again until 1948
They still were openly hostile
Uh no
Unrest is not open war
So... Jews conspired to overthrow Rome... by killing a guy, involving hundreds if not thousands of other random people... then afterwards, they try to actively stop their own conspiracy by killing it's followers?
Is that what you're claiming?
So which is your argument today? Christianity is just a really elaborate scheme invented by some Parthians or Chinese to overthrow Rome? Or it was invented by some nice guy to bring world peace? Or invented by a small group of people to control the world?
Your proof not mine
But I guess Jewish Roman Wars does sound only like unrest...
I haven't argued anything other than Christianity might not be the TRUE religion and gave theorys on how it could be possible
You are treating them like I believe them
For whatever reason
None of which happened in the lifetime of Jesus
The hostility was still there
In fact it was a generation later
There would be subversive elements everywhere to aid a conspiracy
The possibility was there
Fact is Christianity was treated as a subversive element and hunted and persecuted mercilessly and there were no shortage of people who would like to see that happen.
Which means it's far less likely to have been a world peace movement or an attempt to overthrow the Romans
Especially when it teaches the opposite of both
I have a third option. It's real.
Goal wasnt either of those things hypothetically. It was to destabilize. It wasnt meant to overthrow Rome by itself, justopen more opportunities.
But of course your stance would be provable when ever Jesus gets back. If he ever does.
And it didn't do that at all
It's also very unlikely that two million people will give their lives, and another five million put themselves in danger, to put an elaborate conspiracy by foreigners into action
They weren't just Jews, there were also Greeks, Syrians, Romans etc
Third pope, Anacletus, was a Roman, born in the capital itself
As was the fourth, Clement, and was mentioned in the NT in fact
Second pope, Linus, also mentioned by Paul, was from Volterra
Sixth pope was born in the capital
Seventh was from the capital, his family was from Greece
Eighth from Terranova da Sibari
Ninth from Athens
10 from Aquileia; 11 a Greek from Syria; 12 from Aquileia; 13 from Nicopolis; 14 from Roman Africa (not black)
Think that Christianity (Orthodoxian / Catholism ) is different from judaism
too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unknown_God In ancient greece we had a temple for the unknown god too together with the 12. so greeks were more open to christianity when it came.