Message from @Ehzek

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2018-09-02 03:18:27 UTC  

I always saw rome like the EU headquarters

2018-09-02 03:18:51 UTC  

They owned a lot technically but no one fucking liked them

2018-09-02 03:18:57 UTC  

Chinese in America did not become naturalized until the 60s. The day prior to that, what country owned Chinatown NYC?

2018-09-02 03:19:02 UTC  

Only feared them

2018-09-02 03:19:28 UTC  

You're right they didn't necessarily like them

2018-09-02 03:19:41 UTC  

Thats is complete different

2018-09-02 03:20:07 UTC  

NYC was already america before they got they during and after naturalization

2018-09-02 03:20:33 UTC  

It would be more like Guam or something

2018-09-02 03:20:51 UTC  

Its "America" but at the same time not really

2018-09-02 03:21:07 UTC  

Until 1945 the Philippines was sovereign US territory. Yet people born there were not citizens of the US

2018-09-02 03:21:22 UTC  

Uh, people born in Guam are citizens

2018-09-02 03:21:35 UTC  

And Puerto Rico

2018-09-02 03:21:41 UTC  

And yet they arent a state

2018-09-02 03:21:49 UTC  

They are a territory

2018-09-02 03:21:53 UTC  

Rome wasn't a federation

2018-09-02 03:22:03 UTC  

Rome had a separate class of citizen and subject

2018-09-02 03:22:05 UTC  

Roman empire still ruled over everything in their empire. They had troops stationed, collected taxes and stuff from Israel. They had their own governor appointed to rule over Israel

2018-09-02 03:22:06 UTC  

And such dont have certain rights

2018-09-02 03:22:41 UTC  

Note that Paul was both a Jew and a citizen

2018-09-02 03:23:02 UTC  

But this has gone horribly side bar

2018-09-02 03:23:18 UTC  

There was still more middle east east of Israel

2018-09-02 03:23:49 UTC  

And even if they owned everything there would be reason to plot against rome

2018-09-02 03:24:28 UTC  

Seeing as they had almost literally Just been conquered before jesus was born

2018-09-02 03:25:34 UTC  

And then had wars after too

2018-09-02 03:26:47 UTC  

So I would say even Jews had a reason to plot against rome

2018-09-02 03:27:24 UTC  

Conquered 67 years before. That's not necessarily "just"

2018-09-02 03:27:51 UTC  

The Jews, most of them, did everything in their power to stop Christianity from spreading

2018-09-02 03:28:08 UTC  

They actually murdered "Christians"

2018-09-02 03:28:18 UTC  

And warred 66 years after

2018-09-02 03:28:43 UTC  

And never became independent again until 1948

2018-09-02 03:28:59 UTC  

They still were openly hostile

2018-09-02 03:30:31 UTC  

Uh no

2018-09-02 03:30:36 UTC  

Unrest is not open war

2018-09-02 03:31:45 UTC  

So... Jews conspired to overthrow Rome... by killing a guy, involving hundreds if not thousands of other random people... then afterwards, they try to actively stop their own conspiracy by killing it's followers?

2018-09-02 03:33:18 UTC  

Is that what you're claiming?

2018-09-02 03:33:22 UTC  

So which is your argument today? Christianity is just a really elaborate scheme invented by some Parthians or Chinese to overthrow Rome? Or it was invented by some nice guy to bring world peace? Or invented by a small group of people to control the world?

2018-09-02 03:33:36 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/485653489574346752/Screenshot_20180901-203315_Discord.jpg

2018-09-02 03:33:46 UTC  

Your proof not mine

2018-09-02 03:34:16 UTC  

But I guess Jewish Roman Wars does sound only like unrest...

2018-09-02 03:35:39 UTC  

I haven't argued anything other than Christianity might not be the TRUE religion and gave theorys on how it could be possible

2018-09-02 03:35:59 UTC  

You are treating them like I believe them