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2018-09-02 03:12:58 UTC  

Rome is a city

2018-09-02 03:13:42 UTC  

It wasn't a status of forces agreement

2018-09-02 03:13:43 UTC  

When did I identify them as openly hostile enemy nations?

2018-09-02 03:13:56 UTC  

It wasn't a visiting forces agreement

2018-09-02 03:14:12 UTC  

It was a province of the empire

2018-09-02 03:14:32 UTC  

Almost like it was a colony or something...

2018-09-02 03:14:49 UTC  

Like Algeria and France?

2018-09-02 03:15:17 UTC  

Or UK and Australia or any of those

2018-09-02 03:15:41 UTC  

It was theor land technically but it was still seperate

2018-09-02 03:16:03 UTC  

The Roman gov structure is entirely different

2018-09-02 03:16:14 UTC  

Their land, meaning they owned it

2018-09-02 03:16:35 UTC  

By right of conquest according to them

2018-09-02 03:17:33 UTC  

So the people there considered themselves Roman and held no ill will whatsoever?

2018-09-02 03:17:52 UTC  

And still remain Rome to this day?

2018-09-02 03:17:59 UTC  

People in Rome didn't necessarily consider themselves Roman

2018-09-02 03:18:03 UTC  

Because I thought that wasnt the case

2018-09-02 03:18:27 UTC  

I always saw rome like the EU headquarters

2018-09-02 03:18:51 UTC  

They owned a lot technically but no one fucking liked them

2018-09-02 03:18:57 UTC  

Chinese in America did not become naturalized until the 60s. The day prior to that, what country owned Chinatown NYC?

2018-09-02 03:19:02 UTC  

Only feared them

2018-09-02 03:19:28 UTC  

You're right they didn't necessarily like them

2018-09-02 03:19:41 UTC  

Thats is complete different

2018-09-02 03:20:07 UTC  

NYC was already america before they got they during and after naturalization

2018-09-02 03:20:33 UTC  

It would be more like Guam or something

2018-09-02 03:20:51 UTC  

Its "America" but at the same time not really

2018-09-02 03:21:07 UTC  

Until 1945 the Philippines was sovereign US territory. Yet people born there were not citizens of the US

2018-09-02 03:21:22 UTC  

Uh, people born in Guam are citizens

2018-09-02 03:21:35 UTC  

And Puerto Rico

2018-09-02 03:21:41 UTC  

And yet they arent a state

2018-09-02 03:21:49 UTC  

They are a territory

2018-09-02 03:21:53 UTC  

Rome wasn't a federation

2018-09-02 03:22:03 UTC  

Rome had a separate class of citizen and subject

2018-09-02 03:22:05 UTC  

Roman empire still ruled over everything in their empire. They had troops stationed, collected taxes and stuff from Israel. They had their own governor appointed to rule over Israel

2018-09-02 03:22:06 UTC  

And such dont have certain rights

2018-09-02 03:22:41 UTC  

Note that Paul was both a Jew and a citizen

2018-09-02 03:23:02 UTC  

But this has gone horribly side bar

2018-09-02 03:23:18 UTC  

There was still more middle east east of Israel

2018-09-02 03:23:49 UTC  

And even if they owned everything there would be reason to plot against rome

2018-09-02 03:24:28 UTC  

Seeing as they had almost literally Just been conquered before jesus was born

2018-09-02 03:25:34 UTC  

And then had wars after too

2018-09-02 03:26:47 UTC  

So I would say even Jews had a reason to plot against rome