Message from @Ehzek

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2018-09-02 03:30:36 UTC  

Unrest is not open war

2018-09-02 03:31:45 UTC  

So... Jews conspired to overthrow Rome... by killing a guy, involving hundreds if not thousands of other random people... then afterwards, they try to actively stop their own conspiracy by killing it's followers?

2018-09-02 03:33:18 UTC  

Is that what you're claiming?

2018-09-02 03:33:22 UTC  

So which is your argument today? Christianity is just a really elaborate scheme invented by some Parthians or Chinese to overthrow Rome? Or it was invented by some nice guy to bring world peace? Or invented by a small group of people to control the world?

2018-09-02 03:33:36 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/485653489574346752/Screenshot_20180901-203315_Discord.jpg

2018-09-02 03:33:46 UTC  

Your proof not mine

2018-09-02 03:34:16 UTC  

But I guess Jewish Roman Wars does sound only like unrest...

2018-09-02 03:35:39 UTC  

I haven't argued anything other than Christianity might not be the TRUE religion and gave theorys on how it could be possible

2018-09-02 03:35:59 UTC  

You are treating them like I believe them

2018-09-02 03:36:05 UTC  

For whatever reason

2018-09-02 03:36:08 UTC  

None of which happened in the lifetime of Jesus

2018-09-02 03:36:30 UTC  

The hostility was still there

2018-09-02 03:36:35 UTC  

In fact it was a generation later

2018-09-02 03:37:03 UTC  

There would be subversive elements everywhere to aid a conspiracy

2018-09-02 03:40:46 UTC  

The possibility was there

2018-09-02 03:41:35 UTC  

If you want to construct a better theory be my guest.

2018-09-02 03:43:25 UTC  

Fact is Christianity was treated as a subversive element and hunted and persecuted mercilessly and there were no shortage of people who would like to see that happen.

2018-09-02 13:31:44 UTC  

Which means it's far less likely to have been a world peace movement or an attempt to overthrow the Romans

2018-09-02 13:32:01 UTC  

Especially when it teaches the opposite of both

2018-09-02 13:32:24 UTC  

I have a third option. It's real.

2018-09-02 22:29:59 UTC  

Goal wasnt either of those things hypothetically. It was to destabilize. It wasnt meant to overthrow Rome by itself, justopen more opportunities.

2018-09-02 22:31:02 UTC  

But of course your stance would be provable when ever Jesus gets back. If he ever does.

2018-09-02 22:38:38 UTC  

And it didn't do that at all

2018-09-02 22:39:28 UTC  

It's also very unlikely that two million people will give their lives, and another five million put themselves in danger, to put an elaborate conspiracy by foreigners into action

2018-09-02 23:15:46 UTC  

They weren't just Jews, there were also Greeks, Syrians, Romans etc

2018-09-02 23:24:48 UTC  

Third pope, Anacletus, was a Roman, born in the capital itself

2018-09-02 23:26:14 UTC  

As was the fourth, Clement, and was mentioned in the NT in fact

2018-09-02 23:27:04 UTC  

Second pope, Linus, also mentioned by Paul, was from Volterra

2018-09-02 23:28:02 UTC  

Sixth pope was born in the capital

2018-09-02 23:29:18 UTC  

Seventh was from the capital, his family was from Greece

2018-09-02 23:30:12 UTC  

Eighth from Terranova da Sibari

2018-09-02 23:32:38 UTC  

Ninth from Athens

2018-09-02 23:37:28 UTC  

10 from Aquileia; 11 a Greek from Syria; 12 from Aquileia; 13 from Nicopolis; 14 from Roman Africa (not black)

2018-09-02 23:37:29 UTC  

Think that Christianity (Orthodoxian / Catholism ) is different from judaism

2018-09-02 23:37:36 UTC  

too

2018-09-02 23:41:54 UTC  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unknown_God In ancient greece we had a temple for the unknown god too together with the 12. so greeks were more open to christianity when it came.

2018-09-02 23:42:47 UTC  

15-23 from Rome; 24 from Athens; 28 from Croatia; 37 from Portugal; 55 was of German descent

2018-09-02 23:44:07 UTC  

@Deleted User btw have you studied in university about theology or you just did it on your own? You remind me one of my teachers in high school on some subjects 😛

2018-09-02 23:44:37 UTC  

Haha all on my own dude

2018-09-02 23:45:39 UTC  

When I had the falling out with the Muslim chick, I turned as far away from Islam as I could. The direct opposite in every way. Who fought them in the crusades and Ottoman Wars for several centuries? Well I started to study that religion a lot, and eventually converted

2018-09-02 23:46:19 UTC  

I was raised Protestant, was a devout atheist in my teen years, and now I'm a dirty Catholic