Message from @saturnsrings
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neither are God-sent straight from heaven
It ultimately doesn't matter, it is somewhere we don't want to be.
they were written by men
He blessed Abraham when he went to get Lot released who had been taken prisoner in war
Remus, actually, yeah, hell is really just non-existence.
your soul will just be deleted upon death
essentially
Then what the hell is the point of trying?
because you don't go to Hell-Hell until Final Judgment
Sounds like he's a Jehovah Witness too
What if this.
in Christianity you don't automatically go burn in Hell for all eternity, otherwise Final Judgment is just a formality
What if we are burned away into darkness, and then we cease to exist for eternity.
some denominations do believe you instantly go there and it's it for you
our soul is literally burned by Holy Fire.
a way of looking at Hell is that it is not necessarily a metaphysical location
but total isolation from God
non-existence doesn't sound too bad tbh.
Per Luke 23:43 we go immediately
Why try then, Saturn?
Amadeus, the JPS version is what you need to read for an accurate OT. Makes a lot more sense when you read the good stuff, not tainted by idolatry.
If we are not pure, then we must be purified because nothing impure enters the presence of God, and so we must be purged of evil and impurity
If we are too impure, we just go to Hell
I do not know what the "JPS" version is, so you have to spell it out
I believe in Abraham's Bosom and Hades, as in, a perguatory. A practice Hell and a Practice Heaven.
we see this in the Rich Man and Lazarus.
Purgatory is a vague thing and is the "place" or "state" of people who must be purified to enter Heaven. To denounce this doctrine is to say Revelation 21:27 is bullshit (which is what Martin Luther said)
Remus, the reason you try is because you bother even asking "why try?", which means you value it. The fact it's of value is so deeply engrained in your soul that you don't know why anymore, but you do know that it is, no matter what.
A lot of the Dead Sea Scrolls is crap, and a lot of it is actually just the Bible or pieces of it
Christ makes us pure.
If we die in Christ we are pure, and so we go to Abraham's Resting.
the Essenes were chased out for a reason, but it is still significant and important to look at
There isn't one "christ". Those that die in "christ" are themselves the "christ".
Someone who converts on their deathbed is not totally clean
The "christ" are those that have followed G-d's instructions for them.
I believe they are if they believe in their heart and ask the Lord for the forgiveness of their sins, and truly mean it.
are baptized.
etc
etc
There is no forgiveness, there is just consequence. Yet another proof that Christianity is why Libtards are so strong.