Message from @saturnsrings

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2019-05-05 06:02:00 UTC  

Rag, you're a retard, having to be told I'm not a jew a billion times to still not be able to read it.

2019-05-05 06:02:00 UTC  

What is the point of Christianity being contrived if what you say is true?

2019-05-05 06:02:02 UTC  

hell is a Christian concept, so no

2019-05-05 06:02:06 UTC  

in his view

2019-05-05 06:02:16 UTC  

Hell is a Jewish concept as well

2019-05-05 06:02:20 UTC  

not really

2019-05-05 06:02:22 UTC  

it is Sheol

2019-05-05 06:02:31 UTC  

which is more "neutral" than Hell

2019-05-05 06:03:03 UTC  

Judaism and Christianity have slightly different cosmologies

2019-05-05 06:03:08 UTC  

Remus, Christians I'm not sure. They're certainly being idolatrous, which is forbidden to them. If they want to stop, they can still worship G-d and ask him to lead them, as he has lead me.

2019-05-05 06:03:08 UTC  

Melchizedek was a priest-king of a city-state near Sodom and Gomorrah

2019-05-05 06:03:17 UTC  

Perhaps the bible was edited then. I think that hell just means separation from God, whether it be eternal darkness and suffering or torture and hellfire

2019-05-05 06:03:32 UTC  

It doesn't matter.

2019-05-05 06:03:33 UTC  

the Bible, OT and NT, was edited at some point

2019-05-05 06:03:47 UTC  

neither are God-sent straight from heaven

2019-05-05 06:03:47 UTC  

It ultimately doesn't matter, it is somewhere we don't want to be.

2019-05-05 06:03:49 UTC  

they were written by men

2019-05-05 06:03:56 UTC  

He blessed Abraham when he went to get Lot released who had been taken prisoner in war

2019-05-05 06:03:57 UTC  

Remus, actually, yeah, hell is really just non-existence.

2019-05-05 06:04:19 UTC  

your soul will just be deleted upon death

2019-05-05 06:04:22 UTC  

essentially

2019-05-05 06:04:25 UTC  

Then what the hell is the point of trying?

2019-05-05 06:04:34 UTC  

because you don't go to Hell-Hell until Final Judgment

2019-05-05 06:04:36 UTC  

Sounds like he's a Jehovah Witness too

2019-05-05 06:04:55 UTC  

What if this.

2019-05-05 06:04:57 UTC  

in Christianity you don't automatically go burn in Hell for all eternity, otherwise Final Judgment is just a formality

2019-05-05 06:05:10 UTC  

What if we are burned away into darkness, and then we cease to exist for eternity.

2019-05-05 06:05:12 UTC  

some denominations do believe you instantly go there and it's it for you

2019-05-05 06:05:23 UTC  

our soul is literally burned by Holy Fire.

2019-05-05 06:05:25 UTC  

a way of looking at Hell is that it is not necessarily a metaphysical location

2019-05-05 06:05:32 UTC  

but total isolation from God

2019-05-05 06:06:05 UTC  

non-existence doesn't sound too bad tbh.

2019-05-05 06:06:08 UTC  

Per Luke 23:43 we go immediately

2019-05-05 06:06:10 UTC  

Why try then, Saturn?

2019-05-05 06:06:50 UTC  

Amadeus, the JPS version is what you need to read for an accurate OT. Makes a lot more sense when you read the good stuff, not tainted by idolatry.

2019-05-05 06:06:53 UTC  

If we are not pure, then we must be purified because nothing impure enters the presence of God, and so we must be purged of evil and impurity

2019-05-05 06:07:10 UTC  

If we are too impure, we just go to Hell

2019-05-05 06:07:11 UTC  

I do not know what the "JPS" version is, so you have to spell it out

2019-05-05 06:07:13 UTC  

I believe in Abraham's Bosom and Hades, as in, a perguatory. A practice Hell and a Practice Heaven.

2019-05-05 06:07:32 UTC  

we see this in the Rich Man and Lazarus.

2019-05-05 06:07:47 UTC  

also, Melchizedek is mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls @Iakovos