Message from @saturnsrings

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2019-05-05 06:05:25 UTC  

a way of looking at Hell is that it is not necessarily a metaphysical location

2019-05-05 06:05:32 UTC  

but total isolation from God

2019-05-05 06:06:05 UTC  

non-existence doesn't sound too bad tbh.

2019-05-05 06:06:08 UTC  

Per Luke 23:43 we go immediately

2019-05-05 06:06:10 UTC  

Why try then, Saturn?

2019-05-05 06:06:50 UTC  

Amadeus, the JPS version is what you need to read for an accurate OT. Makes a lot more sense when you read the good stuff, not tainted by idolatry.

2019-05-05 06:06:53 UTC  

If we are not pure, then we must be purified because nothing impure enters the presence of God, and so we must be purged of evil and impurity

2019-05-05 06:07:10 UTC  

If we are too impure, we just go to Hell

2019-05-05 06:07:11 UTC  

I do not know what the "JPS" version is, so you have to spell it out

2019-05-05 06:07:13 UTC  

I believe in Abraham's Bosom and Hades, as in, a perguatory. A practice Hell and a Practice Heaven.

2019-05-05 06:07:32 UTC  

we see this in the Rich Man and Lazarus.

2019-05-05 06:07:47 UTC  

also, Melchizedek is mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls @Iakovos

2019-05-05 06:08:27 UTC  

Purgatory is a vague thing and is the "place" or "state" of people who must be purified to enter Heaven. To denounce this doctrine is to say Revelation 21:27 is bullshit (which is what Martin Luther said)

2019-05-05 06:08:37 UTC  

Remus, the reason you try is because you bother even asking "why try?", which means you value it. The fact it's of value is so deeply engrained in your soul that you don't know why anymore, but you do know that it is, no matter what.

2019-05-05 06:08:48 UTC  

A lot of the Dead Sea Scrolls is crap, and a lot of it is actually just the Bible or pieces of it

2019-05-05 06:09:17 UTC  

Christ makes us pure.

2019-05-05 06:09:34 UTC  

If we die in Christ we are pure, and so we go to Abraham's Resting.

2019-05-05 06:09:45 UTC  

the Essenes were chased out for a reason, but it is still significant and important to look at

2019-05-05 06:09:57 UTC  

There isn't one "christ". Those that die in "christ" are themselves the "christ".

2019-05-05 06:10:24 UTC  

Someone who converts on their deathbed is not totally clean

2019-05-05 06:10:31 UTC  

The "christ" are those that have followed G-d's instructions for them.

2019-05-05 06:10:53 UTC  

I believe they are if they believe in their heart and ask the Lord for the forgiveness of their sins, and truly mean it.

2019-05-05 06:11:07 UTC  

are baptized.

2019-05-05 06:11:08 UTC  

etc

2019-05-05 06:11:08 UTC  

etc

2019-05-05 06:11:33 UTC  

There is no forgiveness, there is just consequence. Yet another proof that Christianity is why Libtards are so strong.

2019-05-05 06:11:57 UTC  

Of course

2019-05-05 06:11:59 UTC  

So what happens when you say God's name in vain once, Saturn?

2019-05-05 06:12:03 UTC  

Consequence is the greatest blessing G-d has bestowed upon the Earth.

2019-05-05 06:12:25 UTC  

Are you exempt from forgivenss?

2019-05-05 06:12:26 UTC  

Forever?

2019-05-05 06:12:34 UTC  

Exactly.

2019-05-05 06:12:36 UTC  

I risk developing a habit for disrespecting G-d, and abandoning his instructions for me.

2019-05-05 06:12:46 UTC  

Billy Graham isn't gonna go to Hell for waking up late

2019-05-05 06:13:14 UTC  

Forgiveness is what people have for each other, consequence is what G-d has created the world to have for us.

2019-05-05 06:13:15 UTC  

How is ole Billy viewed by Catholics?

2019-05-05 06:13:35 UTC  

A hero

2019-05-05 06:13:49 UTC  

Saturn if what you say is true then, then God came in the form of a human and forgave us.

2019-05-05 06:14:05 UTC  

Simple.

2019-05-05 06:14:09 UTC  

He was invited to China and North Korea multiple times, in the 80s

2019-05-05 06:14:19 UTC  

No, because you have to personally ask a person for their forgiveness, for instance, when you steal from them.