Message from @Iakovos
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1 Corinthians 5:1-10 New International Version (NIV)
Dealing With a Case of Incest
5 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this? 3 For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. 4 So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh,[a][b] so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.
6 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.
6 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Yes, I know the passage. He explains why we do it.
To the travesty that papism is the leavened bread isn't something that I care though as unscriptural.
Filioque is unscriptural too yet you still do it and endorse it
Oh, so leaven bread is fine?
But filioque isn't?
Oh so filioque is fine?
but leaven bread isn't? It goes both ways.
It's certainly wrong as it's not scriptural never denied it, but there are worse anathemas
On the other hand, most Eastern Churches explicitly forbid the use of unleavened bread (Greek: azymos artos) for the Eucharist. Eastern Christians associate unleavened bread with the Old Testament and allow only for bread with yeast, as a symbol of the New Covenant in Christ's blood. Indeed, this usage figures as one of the three points of contention that traditionally accounted as causes (along with the issues of Petrine supremacy and the filioque in the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed) of the Great Schism of 1054 between Eastern and Western churches
@Iakovos You see this problems didn't magically happened today, they exist from the start of the church and they are the ones lead us to the schism
That leavened bread isn’t talking about Passover. It’s an example of how a small “corruption” corrupts everything around it.
But it's equating yeast to corruption, and that we should keep the Festival of Unleavened Bread.
Read the context around Festival.
So bread with yeast is corrupt now?
So beer is corrupt?
@Deleted User has anyone here attacked your faith?
For Communion, apparently so.
It says Festival of Unleavened Bread
Is there something making you so angry?
I think you’re teaching a little there. But to each their own 🤷
I have extended generous hospitality and consideration to the Orthodox here.
I'm just seeking answers
The passage is still referring to casting out the sexually immoral person because they can corrupt the whole church. Not that eating bread with yeast is wrong.
Did I say or attacked anyone? From the very beginning I joined the discussions I stated my beliefs over papism also
But the Feast of Unleavened Bread is used in the New Testament.
And they never changed it to *leavened* bread.
If I crossed a line though I'm sorry
@Iakovos On the other hand, most Eastern Churches explicitly forbid the use of unleavened bread (Greek: azymos artos) for the Eucharist. Eastern Christians associate unleavened bread with the Old Testament and allow only for bread with yeast, as a symbol of the New Covenant in Christ's blood. That's the answer of Eastern Church
Right
And where is their scriptural reasoning?
Everything must be backed by Scripture ultimately.
Is it with the translations?
Haha
YoUrE jUsT aNgLiCaN yOu DoNt CoUnT
🙄🤣
That's what you get for bullying the rest of the world.
Just kidding lol
Well your church is based on adultery and killing your spouse, so...