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2019-06-09 00:19:11 UTC  

Dude

2019-06-09 00:19:19 UTC  

Orthodox use leaven bread

2019-06-09 00:19:36 UTC  

The ONLY denomination to not use unleaven

2019-06-09 00:19:58 UTC  

Despite the clear message in 1st Corinthians to keep the Feast

2019-06-09 00:20:53 UTC  

Unless there is another too, they are in clear violation of scripture

2019-06-09 00:21:01 UTC  

Leavened bread was used always in the eastern church from its first creation

2019-06-09 00:21:17 UTC  

Corinth is in Greece

2019-06-09 00:21:25 UTC  

And a Paul warns them to NOT use it

2019-06-09 00:21:34 UTC  

In the Christian East there is no concern for using the exact type of bread used at the Last Supper—known in the Orthodox Church as the “Mystical Supper.” Christ “leavens” our lives, so to speak, and the purpose of the Eucharistic celebration is not to “recreate” or “reproduce” a past event but, rather, to participate in an event that is beyond time and space and which, in fact, continues to happen each time the Eucharist is celebrated in fulfillment of Our Lord’s command.

2019-06-09 00:23:59 UTC  

1 Corinthians 5:1-10 New International Version (NIV)
Dealing With a Case of Incest

5 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this? 3 For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. 4 So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh,[a][b] so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.

6 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.

2019-06-09 00:24:16 UTC  

6 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

2019-06-09 00:27:08 UTC  

Yes, I know the passage. He explains why we do it.

2019-06-09 00:28:27 UTC  

To the travesty that papism is the leavened bread isn't something that I care though as unscriptural.

2019-06-09 00:28:47 UTC  

Filioque is unscriptural too yet you still do it and endorse it

2019-06-09 00:29:48 UTC  

Oh, so leaven bread is fine?

2019-06-09 00:29:54 UTC  

But filioque isn't?

2019-06-09 00:30:49 UTC  

Oh so filioque is fine?
but leaven bread isn't? It goes both ways.

2019-06-09 00:32:11 UTC  

It's certainly wrong as it's not scriptural never denied it, but there are worse anathemas

2019-06-09 00:34:36 UTC  

On the other hand, most Eastern Churches explicitly forbid the use of unleavened bread (Greek: azymos artos) for the Eucharist. Eastern Christians associate unleavened bread with the Old Testament and allow only for bread with yeast, as a symbol of the New Covenant in Christ's blood. Indeed, this usage figures as one of the three points of contention that traditionally accounted as causes (along with the issues of Petrine supremacy and the filioque in the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed) of the Great Schism of 1054 between Eastern and Western churches

2019-06-09 00:35:04 UTC  

@Iakovos You see this problems didn't magically happened today, they exist from the start of the church and they are the ones lead us to the schism

2019-06-09 00:35:16 UTC  

That leavened bread isn’t talking about Passover. It’s an example of how a small “corruption” corrupts everything around it.

2019-06-09 00:35:45 UTC  

But it's equating yeast to corruption, and that we should keep the Festival of Unleavened Bread.

2019-06-09 00:35:57 UTC  

Read the context around Festival.

2019-06-09 00:36:02 UTC  

So bread with yeast is corrupt now?

2019-06-09 00:36:08 UTC  

So beer is corrupt?

2019-06-09 00:36:10 UTC  

@Deleted User has anyone here attacked your faith?

2019-06-09 00:36:11 UTC  

For Communion, apparently so.

2019-06-09 00:36:27 UTC  

It says Festival of Unleavened Bread

2019-06-09 00:36:27 UTC  

Is there something making you so angry?

2019-06-09 00:36:36 UTC  

Christ seemed to use unleavened bread during Passover.

2019-06-09 00:36:38 UTC  

I think you’re teaching a little there. But to each their own 🤷

2019-06-09 00:37:39 UTC  

I have extended generous hospitality and consideration to the Orthodox here.

2019-06-09 00:38:00 UTC  

I'm just seeking answers

2019-06-09 00:38:01 UTC  

The passage is still referring to casting out the sexually immoral person because they can corrupt the whole church. Not that eating bread with yeast is wrong.

2019-06-09 00:38:31 UTC  

Did I say or attacked anyone? From the very beginning I joined the discussions I stated my beliefs over papism also

2019-06-09 00:38:35 UTC  

But the Feast of Unleavened Bread is used in the New Testament.

2019-06-09 00:38:47 UTC  

And they never changed it to *leavened* bread.

2019-06-09 00:39:01 UTC  

If I crossed a line though I'm sorry

2019-06-09 00:39:17 UTC  
2019-06-09 00:40:10 UTC  

@Iakovos On the other hand, most Eastern Churches explicitly forbid the use of unleavened bread (Greek: azymos artos) for the Eucharist. Eastern Christians associate unleavened bread with the Old Testament and allow only for bread with yeast, as a symbol of the New Covenant in Christ's blood. That's the answer of Eastern Church