Message from @Iakovos
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Look, I agree with almost every tenant of Orthodoxy and it's easier to accept than Catholicism, except for maybe infant communion and leavened bread.
But leavened bread is a huge deal.
Eastern Catholic uses the same bread as Orthodox
So both are valid
Don’t worry tea-nigger. They’ll hate on me just as bad. I’m a silly Protestant 🤣
EC rites are equally valid according to the Pope vested with authority
I am neither, I am simply Christian seeking answers.
Well I'm not taking anything back for the papacy though <:smuglaugh:448311843086401536> ☦
I see @Deleted User
Wait.
Do Eastern Catholics believe in Immaculate Conception?
Latin rite uses unleavened bread. Eastern rites use leavened
@Iakovos yes
RIP
Immaculate Conception is a hard teaching
All Eastern Catholics believe in the exact same things as Latin Catholics
IC is one of the easier ones if you look at it from another angle
Why do Catholics believe that Mary was sinless?
Even free of personal sin?
From where do we get Original Sin?
@Deleted User So to understand, the eastern churches that joined papism still have the same beliefs as the orthodox churches that didn't joined?
On the original sin route... I assume you mean from being descendants of Adam and Eve?
@Deleted User it's not called papism.
papacy
Then since Jesus didn’t have an earthly father, he didn’t get original sin?
I like the Orthodox interpretation. We inherit the *condition* of original sin, and the consequences/mortality. Not the guilt of original sin.
Eastern churches that are in communion with Rome have the same beliefs as other Catholics but their "rite" is generally the same as Orthodox
Greek Orthodox, and Byzantine Catholic, have the same liturgical rites
Rag is the Orthodox interpretation of original sin the same as Catholic?
Doesn’t it actually say in the NT that because Adam sinned, we’ve all sinned and the wages of sin is death?
So Adam was likely immortal before he sinned.
This is a Catholic Church
Yeah Remus. For the whole like 2 days he didn’t 🤣
@Deleted User answer my question
@Iakovos yes and yes. Our interpretation is the same but Orthodox explain things sometimes differently
@Andrules Concerning the original—or “first”—sin, that commited by Adam and Eve, Orthodoxy believes that, while everyone bears the consequences of the first sin, the foremost of which is death, only Adam and Eve are guilty of that sin.
Orthodox is more "mystical" and Catholic is more "logical" I guess
But the belief is basically the same