Message from @Iakovos

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2019-06-09 00:47:06 UTC  

@Deleted User Also I'm sorry if I crossed a line Rag

2019-06-09 00:47:36 UTC  

Look, I agree with almost every tenant of Orthodoxy and it's easier to accept than Catholicism, except for maybe infant communion and leavened bread.

2019-06-09 00:47:49 UTC  

But leavened bread is a huge deal.

2019-06-09 00:48:25 UTC  

Eastern Catholic uses the same bread as Orthodox

2019-06-09 00:48:28 UTC  

So both are valid

2019-06-09 00:48:33 UTC  

Don’t worry tea-nigger. They’ll hate on me just as bad. I’m a silly Protestant 🤣

2019-06-09 00:49:03 UTC  

EC rites are equally valid according to the Pope vested with authority

2019-06-09 00:49:03 UTC  

I am neither, I am simply Christian seeking answers.

2019-06-09 00:49:11 UTC  

Well I'm not taking anything back for the papacy though <:smuglaugh:448311843086401536> ☦

2019-06-09 00:49:14 UTC  
2019-06-09 00:49:18 UTC  

Wait.

2019-06-09 00:49:32 UTC  

Do Eastern Catholics believe in Immaculate Conception?

2019-06-09 00:49:38 UTC  

Latin rite uses unleavened bread. Eastern rites use leavened

2019-06-09 00:49:41 UTC  
2019-06-09 00:49:44 UTC  

RIP

2019-06-09 00:49:55 UTC  

Immaculate Conception is a hard teaching

2019-06-09 00:50:01 UTC  

All Eastern Catholics believe in the exact same things as Latin Catholics

2019-06-09 00:50:23 UTC  

IC is one of the easier ones if you look at it from another angle

2019-06-09 00:50:27 UTC  

Why do Catholics believe that Mary was sinless?

2019-06-09 00:50:36 UTC  

Even free of personal sin?

2019-06-09 00:50:37 UTC  

From where do we get Original Sin?

2019-06-09 00:50:50 UTC  

Original sin is fine, but certainly she could have sinned.

2019-06-09 00:51:17 UTC  

@Deleted User So to understand, the eastern churches that joined papism still have the same beliefs as the orthodox churches that didn't joined?

2019-06-09 00:51:34 UTC  

On the original sin route... I assume you mean from being descendants of Adam and Eve?

2019-06-09 00:51:43 UTC  

@Deleted User it's not called papism.

2019-06-09 00:51:54 UTC  

papacy

2019-06-09 00:52:09 UTC  

Then since Jesus didn’t have an earthly father, he didn’t get original sin?

2019-06-09 00:52:10 UTC  

I like the Orthodox interpretation. We inherit the *condition* of original sin, and the consequences/mortality. Not the guilt of original sin.

2019-06-09 00:52:12 UTC  

Eastern churches that are in communion with Rome have the same beliefs as other Catholics but their "rite" is generally the same as Orthodox

2019-06-09 00:52:38 UTC  

Greek Orthodox, and Byzantine Catholic, have the same liturgical rites

2019-06-09 00:53:04 UTC  

Rag is the Orthodox interpretation of original sin the same as Catholic?

2019-06-09 00:53:11 UTC  

Doesn’t it actually say in the NT that because Adam sinned, we’ve all sinned and the wages of sin is death?

2019-06-09 00:53:36 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/587081818898038817/15600415999881870755538.jpg

2019-06-09 00:53:39 UTC  

So Adam was likely immortal before he sinned.

2019-06-09 00:53:43 UTC  

This is a Catholic Church

2019-06-09 00:53:57 UTC  

Yeah Remus. For the whole like 2 days he didn’t 🤣

2019-06-09 00:54:00 UTC  

@Deleted User answer my question

2019-06-09 00:54:07 UTC  

@Iakovos yes and yes. Our interpretation is the same but Orthodox explain things sometimes differently

2019-06-09 00:54:17 UTC  

@Andrules Concerning the original—or “first”—sin, that commited by Adam and Eve, Orthodoxy believes that, while everyone bears the consequences of the first sin, the foremost of which is death, only Adam and Eve are guilty of that sin.

2019-06-09 00:54:18 UTC  

@Andrules we don't know how much time had passed. perhaps years.