Message from @Iakovos

Discord ID: 587082750683774987


2019-06-09 00:54:17 UTC  

@Andrules Concerning the original—or “first”—sin, that commited by Adam and Eve, Orthodoxy believes that, while everyone bears the consequences of the first sin, the foremost of which is death, only Adam and Eve are guilty of that sin.

2019-06-09 00:54:18 UTC  

@Andrules we don't know how much time had passed. perhaps years.

2019-06-09 00:54:27 UTC  

Orthodox is more "mystical" and Catholic is more "logical" I guess

2019-06-09 00:54:47 UTC  

But the belief is basically the same

2019-06-09 00:54:49 UTC  

@Deleted User More or less yes

2019-06-09 00:55:12 UTC  

So Catholics and Orthodox share the same interpretation in original sin?

2019-06-09 00:55:20 UTC  

It has more to do with historical philosophies and culture. Remember that the Orthodox were mostly Greeks at one time.

2019-06-09 00:55:26 UTC  

Greek philosophy etc

2019-06-09 00:55:33 UTC  

Our churches are more mystical in a sense, hence the holy light in Easter etc

2019-06-09 00:56:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/587082550032203930/15600417775611088429456.jpg

2019-06-09 00:56:35 UTC  

Here is another Catholic Church

2019-06-09 00:56:56 UTC  

That looks mostly as our churches

2019-06-09 00:56:56 UTC  

Most but not all ECs were once Orthodox

2019-06-09 00:57:06 UTC  

Rag.

2019-06-09 00:57:06 UTC  

Yeah

2019-06-09 00:57:07 UTC  

Do

2019-06-09 00:57:11 UTC  

Orthodox

2019-06-09 00:57:13 UTC  

and Catholics

2019-06-09 00:57:14 UTC  

share

2019-06-09 00:57:14 UTC  

the

2019-06-09 00:57:15 UTC  

same

2019-06-09 00:57:15 UTC  

As I said, same liturgical rite

2019-06-09 00:57:24 UTC  

If you spam again we are gonna have a problem

2019-06-09 00:58:16 UTC  

Seriously though I do apologize.

2019-06-09 00:59:28 UTC  

@Iakovos Also sorry to you too, my tone probably seemed a little aggressive, not that I wanted it

2019-06-09 00:59:43 UTC  

It's all good.

2019-06-09 01:00:55 UTC  

@Iakovos So, for your questions though, it would be best to visit some different churches from cathobros to orthobros and speak with the priests there. I believe they will be happy to answer your questions

2019-06-09 01:01:35 UTC  

I will visit an Orthodox Church tomorrow morning.

2019-06-09 01:02:26 UTC  

Catholic original sin is more like a curse as a result of an individual sin

2019-06-09 01:02:33 UTC  

Like inheriting a disease

2019-06-09 01:02:44 UTC  

Not infecting yourself with it as Adam did

2019-06-09 01:03:15 UTC  

The same as us then, because in a sense we don't inherit the sin but only the consequences

2019-06-09 01:03:24 UTC  

We do not believe people are *guilty* of Adam's sin. Merely that we suffer the consequences of what he did. So the blame falls on us

2019-06-09 01:03:27 UTC  

Well obviously, original sin is evident as we all die.

2019-06-09 01:03:27 UTC  

Yeah basically

2019-06-09 01:03:46 UTC  

Oh so that makes sense.

2019-06-09 01:03:59 UTC  

Okay, then Catholics and Orthodox are in harmony with each other on that.

2019-06-09 01:04:14 UTC  

Our relationships are "mostly" good

2019-06-09 01:04:18 UTC  

If I can get past the leavened bread I will most likely join an Orthodox Church.

2019-06-09 01:04:53 UTC  

But if I can't, then I will continue my original plan to be confirmed Catholic.

2019-06-09 01:04:59 UTC  

The pope have tried to mend the relationship with our churches and in 2001 it was the first time the Pope asked for forginess to Orthodox, not something that did go too well or not too bad