Message from @Andrules
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And then read Luke 2:24
Unless @Deleted User can accurately rebuttal this
Oh... as in Mary was born without original sin, so she could give birth to a sinless Jesus. Is that what you’re saying?
Jesus came to fulfill the law, not abolish it. That was part of the law from Moses to offer the sacrifice after giving birth.
Doesn’t necessarily contradict her being sinless.
I know.
You probably don’t know this, because you don’t have kids, but women bleed a lot after giving birth. They sent us home with a bunch of adult diaper type things to catch all the blood and stuff that comes out after a baby come out of you.
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The woman being “unclean” has a lot more to do with physical health and hygiene than it does spiritual cleanliness.
True.
They didn’t exactly have period pads and disposable diapers 🤣
Well, I will continue on my studies
I just wish it was more clear
So you don’t want the women walking around bleeding everywhere they go during their periods or after birth. So they made it a “law” for women to stay in certain places so the town won’t get blood and afterbirth all over it.
Remember, you’re reading in the Bible when all these sanitary standards we have today were being created and written down. Look at Leviticus and how it tells you to wash your hands, and clean up open sores you have.
The KJV calls every skin issue “leprosy” in the OT. A pimple is leprosy, a bruise is leprosy, etc. The Leviticus instructions give basic sanitary standards for healthcare. Wash your wounds, wash your hands, clean bloody clothes, etc.
To circle back... Women were made, by the laws of Moses, to stay away from society at large after giving birth so all that afterbirth stuff that comes out won’t be all over the streets and people’s shop floors and stuff. The reason for the animal sacrifice isn’t something I’ve delved in to, so someone else will have to help you there.
Why aren't you Catholic?
Don’t like Mexicans.
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I’ve just never felt the reason to go to one honestly.
The only real difference I’ve seen from Rags and some of the other guys from my church is the pope and apostolic succession.
They’ve never taught Mary’s immaculate conception, but I’ve never had the idea to ask either.
All the pastors at my independent baptist church have had doctorates in theology from different colleges. So I haven’t had much reason to doubt their messages at church.
Okay.
Because Protestant, I know that isn’t the case at every church. So instead of being able to look at the Vatican and making sure the church is grounded in proper doctrine, you have to ask the pastor(s) themselves specific questions about their theological stances.
Well I’m off to try and get some sleep before church. Have faith that God will lead you to the answers you’re looking for.
@Iakovos Orthodox still believe she was sinless
Without personal sin, and without original sin, are two different things
It has more to do with how Orthodox explain what "original sin" means
Just arrested three people
Uh oh. What did they do?
drug charges most likely.
After attending Orthodox Liturgy I think I've decided Orthodoxy over Catholicism, considering the two.
No.
No love for our britbongs 😦
@Iakovos Also how did you find the liturgy?
It's quite simple. Doctrine has been made manifest, and there is no more *to* manifest. We have been told how to behave, and how to conduct ourselves, the Tradition, the Scripture. All of it is in harmony.