I'd say it's not an apples to apples comparison of what the mainstream left and right "support". I think it probably seems like "the left" runs defense more often for violent groups because there's more left-leaning media. I haven't seen much other than "antifa started it" from right-leaning outlets like Fox or Breitbart

Anyway, I don't condone violence or threats of violence on any pole. Which is why I feel distressed when my own President advocates for violence.

@DrYuriMom Which group? That's all I keep asking. I still haven't heard one legitimate mainstream group on the right. I keep hearing fringe groups being compared to it and that's all.

I can't name any because there are no "mainstream" ones. Just like there aren't on the left. When they get violent, they aren't mainstream anymore.

Antifa was mainstream though. There's absolutely no doubt about that.

they've only fallen from grace because they crossed MANY lines, and even now they have a clear presence.

Yes. And there is nothing wrong with resistance to fascism.

except that's not what they really represented. So don't give me that line.

But violence is wrong

That being said, I've made my point, thank you.

That's what they represented to me, but perhaps I am naive

antifa was only supported by the mainstream as long as it was legitimately antifascist

whenever innocent people were attacked, they were condemned

Antifa is Anti-Fascist in name only.
When you rally and riot to "SHUT IT DOWN" at free speech events, how are you anything BUT a fascist?

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shutting down nazi rallies isn't fascist

@DrYuriMom is fascism bad or were there simply bad fascists?

It is like, is communism bad intentioned or were there simply bad communists?

Tom, I don't believe the vast, overwhelming majority of either Dems or Reps believe that violence is a legitimate tool.

Oh, you mean the NAZI RALLY that was a Jewish member of the right trying to speak on a college campus?

That damn Jewish Nazi

There were bad fascists

And bad Communists

I agree

No, fascism per see isn't evil

Then why is punching fascists acceptable

tbh, almost everyone thinks violence is a legitimate tool in some case

Nor is Communism, although the latter is irrational on an sizable scale

>everyone I don't like is a Nazi

I would argue punching anyone isn't appropriate

Now you're conflating issues.

I'm not saying nazis aren't bad. I'm not saying fascists aren't bad.

Let me post this question to you instead.

Who would be first in line to stop a JEWISH FREE SPEECH ADVOCATE from speaking to college students?

Well, except in self defense

Communism and fascism have positive dreams and motives. Obtainable in reality without harm is a different question.

both the police force and the army exist to be violent, albeit in a manner that most people find justified

Unless you live in the uk

@JustTom , yes, I know what you're after. The left, of course.

Fascism as mussolini described it called for the nation to constantly be at war, did it not?

cops in the UK are still pretty violent lol

But we have a President who decides those who disagree with him

holy shit, you think the left would be the FIRST people to oppose a JEWISH FREE SPEECH advocate?

Good god, what kind of weird ass world do you live in?

My first answer would be the NAZIs

I can't tell who yes'd me

me